1. Brit-Am Replies to Query Concerning
Napoleon etc, DNA, and Free Will.
James Rowland wrote:
In-re your article about 3. Napoleon Bonaparte [like Hitler] belonged to
haplogroup E1b1b1c1* (E-M34*)..
While it is very interesting...one needs to ask who else belongs to this
group or how many and out of the number...how many actually are like Hitler
and Napoleon or just came out benign? For instance, middle 20th
century...what about Oswald Mosley, Mussolini, Stalin, Franco, various and
sundry Facists, Communist/Socialist types who gained power in Hungary,
Croatia, Beligum etc? What about free will?
It is not our article. We came across it on the net and like you found it
It could be mistaken.
Even if it is correct that same haplogroup E-M34* is carred by hundreds of
millions of other people.
A few quotes below are followed by Brit-Am Answers to your questions.
Haplogroup E1b1b (Y-DNA)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The E1b1b clade is presently found in various forms in the Horn of Africa, North
Africa, parts of Eastern, Western, and Southern Africa, West Asia, and Europe
(especially the Mediterranean Spain and the Balkans).
E1b1b and E1b1b1 are quite common amongst Afro-Asiatic speakers. The linguistic
group and carriers of E1b1b1 lineage have a high probability to have arisen and
dispersed together from the region of origin of this language
family. Amongst populations with an Afro-Asiatic speaking history, a
significant proportion of Jewish male lineages are E1b1b1 (E-M35).
Haplogroup E1b1b1, which accounts for approximately 18% to 20% of
Ashkenazi and 8.6% to 30% of Sephardi Y-chromosomes, appears to be one of
the major founding lineages of the Jewish population.[Note 3]
Napoleon I belonged to haplogroup
Napoleon's Y-DNA has finally been tested. He belonged to haplogroup E1b1b1c1*
(E-M34), the main subclade of E-M123. They tested DNA from his beard hairs as
well as DNA from one of his modern descendant, Charles Napoleon. Both belonged to
the same haplogroup.
E-M123 and E-M34 have a distribution which strongly suggest a Neolithic
dispersal. They peak in the southern Levant (Israel and Palestine), then seem to
have spread through southern and western Anatolia, jumped to Italy, with major
settlements particularly in Sicily and Sardinia, then carried on to Tunisia,
Algeria and southern France. There are also minor frequencies in northern Spain
and northern Germany. Overall the distribution is reminiscent of G2a(xG2a3),
J1(xJ1c3) and T.
Since the beginning of this search and through different forums I gathered some
interesting thoughts. One is about a familial tradition of the Bonaparte family
(I am translating from a post in french) : the original name would have been
Kalom?id? (greek) later translated in Italian as "buona parte" and Buonaparte ,
made in french as Bonaparte. The origin would be the Tr?izonde empire on the
black sea ; a remnant of the greek position in Anatolia. These people would have
left Anatolia when the Ottoman came in. My idea about the whole story is that
M34+ is correlated with the city of Jericho on the dead sea. After the fall of
this city some people were assimilated as greeks (possibly merchants) adn later
went as greeks in the rest of the roman empire.
Now to your questions:
Hitler was an evil person.
Napoleon may also have been a bad man but he had a positive side to him.
We agree with you that there are bad people everywhere and that everyone has
Nevertheless we also look for certain tendencies that are inherited.
Brit-Am is concerned with clarifying where the Israelite descendants of the Ten
Tribes are today.
Part of this study involve a presumption that certain traits are inherited.
It could be that ultimately the science of DNA will be overturned (or
drastically revised) and the role of environment found to have been much more
important than is currently assumed.
Assuming it is not however we have in E-M34 a white branch of E which otherwise
pertains to African Negroid peoples. This could be the same branch of CUSH that
gave rise to Nimrod??
2. The German Hyperbrachycephals.
According to the Nordicist school, European achievement is primarily due to the
tall, blond, dolichocephalic race. The only problem with this theory, which
achieved such popularity in the 19th and early 20th centuries, is that when the
skulls of prominent Europeans and Germans were measured there was no evidence of
an overrepresentation of dolichocephals among them: indeed, most of them were
brachycephalic, many of them tending to the extreme hyperbrachycephalic form, as
the following passage illustrates.
Friedrich Hertz, Rasse und Kultur: eine kritische Untersuchung der
Rassentheorien, 3. ed., Alfred Kr?er, Leipzig, 1925, p.163
UPDATE (2 March 2008)
Franz Weidenreich, "The Brachycephalization of Recent Mankind", Southwestern
Journal of Anthropology, Vol. 1, No. 1. (Spring, 1945), p. 9.
One can imagine the shock an intelligent German reader suffered when he
remembered that many of the great German heroes from Bismarck down to Hindenburg
and Hitler were brachycephalics and even hyperbrachycephalics, and that the
three greatest philosophers Germany has produced-Leibniz, Kant, and
Schopenhauer-had round heads in the most extreme form (Fig. 2, No. 4, Leibniz,
skull index 90.3[!]; NO. 5, Kant, skull index 88.5; No. 6, Schopenhauer, head
index 90.0 [!).
3. More evidence of genetic
discontinuity between Neolithic and modern Europeans
Here is more ancient DNA from the Danubian Neolithic.
The remains come from the Great Hungarian Plain and date from circa 6000 BCE, so
approximately 500 years before the Linear Pottery Culture (LBK). They are
therefore the oldest Neolithic DNA from Europe so far, and the second from
Hungary (Haak et al. 2005 found a single N1a1b sample). This time they were able
to test 23 samples and identify five haplogroups. All of them are extremely rare
in Europe today : N9a, N1a, C5, D1/G1a and M/R24.
This is an astonishing array of haplogroups to say the least. Although N1a has
popped up frequently in Neolithic sites from Western and central Europe before,
and is still common in the Caucasus nowadays, the others are typical of various
regions Asia and not normally found in the same population.
- N9a has a very wide range. It is found all the way from East Asian (including
China, Japan, Vietnam, Thailand and Malaysia) to Eastern Europe, via Central
- C5 is more typical of Northern and Central Asia, but is also found at very low
frequencies in Eastern and Central Europe.
- D1/G1 : G1 and D1 are both typical of Siberia and Northeast Asia.
- R24 is normally found in the Philippines (never heard of other places), so
it's probably a mistake.
I cannot see how any of these haplogroups besides N1a could be of Near Eastern
origin. It's more likely that a group of Siberian or Central Asian Palaeolithic
nomads reached Hungary and were absorbed by the West Asian herders/farmers who
had barely arrived in the region.
Unfortunately the abstract doesn't say how many individuals of each haplogroup
there were. I suppose that N1a was in higher proportion than the rest.