BAMAD no.25
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Brit-Am Anthropology and DNA Update
1. DNA and Biological Warfare Against
Israelites?
2. Nial
DNA Amongst Scots-Irish
3. Y chromosomes of Hungarians
1. DNA and Biological Warfare Against
Israelites?
From: David Tempelhoff
Hello Yair,
Is it fair to say that the Holocaust was an outgrowth of Social evolutionary
theories formulated by Darwin in the 19thC?
Is it fair to say that Hitler used these so called social scientific truths to
justify his ideas of developing a master Race?
Is it fair to say that Hitler conspired to destroy Judah by disguising his plans
in a cloak of socialism that would better Germany?
Is it fair to say that similar ideas are still imbedded in many nations social
programs whether Facist, Communist, or Socilaist? ( abortion, euthanasia etc)
BIO Medical Industrial complex------ would be a great tool to facilitate Global
social engineering plans.
I was told that many of the 3rd Reichs top Scientists were transplanted to the
USA and given jobs and able to further there research after WW2.
Would it be possible to develop a strain or sickness ( cancer, disease) that
only affected a certain gene type?
Its fair to say that certain genetic types have a presupposition toward certain
things like the ability to digest lactose.
If an individual, group, organization or movement wanted to destroy a people
like Israel they might be able to develop a sickness that attaches itself to an
enzime that is unique to those people and quietly over time poison them through
vaccines, certain medications and food.
"Plan for the worst and hope for the best"
The Holocaust took place less than 65 years ago. Thats nothing in the span of
time.
I don't think we should be paranoid but I do think we should be realistic and
sober minded protecting ourselves and our families from possible infection.
This thread might be worthy of research or then it might not.
Sincerely,
David Tempelhoff
Brit-Am
Replies:
You asked whether or not
"the Holocaust was an outgrowth of Social evolutionary theories formulated by
Darwin in the 19thC?"
From reading publications published at the time the impression is received that,
These theories were accepted by the intellectual elites of Europe . There was a
great deal of naivety at the time.
People believed in Science. They thought that Science had all the answers.
They also tended to think that whatever the scientists told them must be true.
There was a tendency to think that Northern peoples were inherently superior
and that some peoples (including Jews) had something inherently wrong with them.
These thoughts were wedded to traditional Jew-hatred.
This however is Only a very Partial explanation for the Holocaust.
It could have occurred even without the "scientific" rationale.
I would not say that the "scientific" rationale was any stronger than the
pseudo-mystical "New Age"
witchcraft-type element in Nazi thinking.
Hitler never really hid his intentions towards the Jews. He built himself up
through advertising his
hatred and maliciousness. On the other hand he usually lead others to believe
that he would be
much less murderous than he was.
On the one hand Abortion programs, euthaniasia, eugenics, etc all often cloak
"master race" concepts and emanate
from a similar mindset to that which gave rise to the Holocaust.
On the other hand Hitler was more or less a vegetarian but that does not make
all vegetarians closet Nazis.
The Nazis also developed the Volkswagen but that does not make everyone who
drives one of those cars an anti-Semite!
One should be careful not to take comparisons and analogies too far.
The Nazis and others had undertaken research into biological warfare.
At the end of WW2 the Americans and British (as well as the Russians) were
interested in this research
and in German Science in general. They took German scientists to their own
countries, gave them support and facilities,
and if they had committed war crimes (such as exploiting and killing slave
laborers) usually overlooked them.
Nowadays biological warfare research also includes aspects of DNA findings.
The probabilities are that:
It might theoretically be possible to develop genetically-specific diseases
(a) That would harm most Black Africans but not most white ones even though
many "whites" (such as those of North Africa as well as many in
Southern Europe) have similar DNA to Black Africans.
(b) The Japanese, Chinese, or Koreans, etc could theoretically develop something
that would harm
most white North Americans, while leaving most Asians and native Amerindians
untouched.
It would appear to me that the DNA of Europeans and Middle Eastern Peoples
is too similar for any genetically-specific illness to be developed that would
touch one group and not harm
another.
There is however a genetic division between North Europeans and South Europeans
irrespective of genetic type. Most Ashkenazic Jews (even those of Northern
Europe)
are of the southern type and an invading North European force theoretically
could use something against them.
There is always the chance however of these things backfiring.
We would not suggest that anybody become overly concerned on these matters.
If we do well the Almighty will look after us and our peoples unless HE has
decreed otherwise.
If a person tries to take into account all contingencies he is liable to drive
himself crazy.
It is good to use purified or mineral water for drinking purposes and cleaner
food.
This includes "Kosher" brands which may not be perfect but relatively speaking
they are usually an improvement on the alternatives.
2.
Nial
DNA Amongst Scots-Irish
http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/DNA-R1B1C7/2008-03/1205714057
Extract:
David Wilson:
At base, the Scots-Irish descend
from the population of Scots (and a few culturally similar Northern English)
who relocated first to Northern Ireland in the 17th century, and then from
Northern Ireland to the colonies in the 18th century. There are lots of
R1b1c7 individuals in the United States who descend from Irish immigrants
who had no recent Scottish roots, and plenty of direct immigrants from
Scotland whose family members did not first participate in the Plantation of
Ulster.
Also, if you look at the Scots-Irish in the narrowest definition of their
identity, not more than 10-20 percent of all SI immigrants will be R1b1c7,
which means that the vast majority -- some 80-90 percent -- are not. Why
would we think this? Because that's the percentage of R1b1c7 today in the
counties from which the majority of the SI immigrants came to North America.
I think it will be generally true that the broad regional movements of the
Scots-Irish in North America will reflect the movement of SOME R1b1c7
families. But there will be other North American R1b1c7 families that
distributed themselves to different colonies (and eventually states) without
making use of the Appalachian highways and gaps that we strongly associate
with the SI....
To recap my rough estimate: about 10-20 percent of North Americans with SI
roots will be R1b1c7; about one third to one half of all R1b1c7 in North
American will descend from the SI as defined above.
David Wilson
3. Y chromosomes of Hungarians
http://dienekes.blogspot.com/
Extracts:
The Hungarian population belongs linguistically to the Finno-Ugric branch of the
Uralic family. The Tat C allele is an interesting marker in the Finno-Ugric
context, distributed in all the Finno-Ugric-speaking populations, except for
Hungarians. This question arises whether the ancestral Hungarians, who settled
in the Carpathian Basin, harbored this polymorphism or not. 100 men from modern
Hungary, 97 Szeklers (a Hungarian-speaking population from Transylvania), and 4
archaeologically Hungarian bone samples from the 10th century were studied for
this polymorphism. Among the modern individuals, only one Szekler carries the
Tat C allele, whereas out of the four skeletal remains, two possess the allele.
The latter finding, even allowing for the low sample number, appears to indicate
a Siberian lineage of the invading Hungarians, which later has largely
disappeared.
Haplogroup I was detected with almost equal frequency in the two modern
populations: 24% in Hungarians and 21.7% in Szeklers...
The elevated frequency of Hg I1a together with higher frequency of R1b-M269 in
Szekler population might be the consequence, at least in part, of the genetic
impact of people of German origin, who settled in Transylvania from the 12th
century onwards (Transylvanian Saxons)(Makkai, 1990; Krist? 2002).
The J1-M267 Y-chromosomal lineage is notably frequent in Szeklers (10.3%; a
value far above the range for other central and eastern European populations (Semino
et al., 2000a, 2004; Di Giacomo et al., 2004), while its frequency in Hungarians
(3.0%) is unremarkable.
Interestingly, the two ancient indiviuals harboring Y-haplogroup N3 (anc21 and
anc28) were also classified anthropologically as Europo-Mongolid, while anc21
harbored the Caucasoid mtDNA haplogroup H. This is consistent with the notion
that the Mongoloid elements in ancient Hungarians fused with Caucasoid elements,
although the results from the modern population suggests that the blend was
finally overwhelmed by the Caucasoid component.
The two modern Hungarian-speaking populations, based on 22 Y-chromosomal binary
markers, share similar components described for other Europeans, except for the
presence of the haplogroup P*(xM173) in Szekler samples, which may reflect a
Central Asian connection, and high frequency of haplogroup J in both Szeklers
and Hungarians. MDS analysis based on haplogroup frequency values, confirms that
modern Hungarian and Szekler populations are genetically closely related, and
similar to populations from Central Europe and the Balkans.
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