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Contents:
1. Mormon Founder, Joseph Smith Descended from
Nial?
2. Yair
Davidiy
Challenge to Experts Remains Unanswered?
3. The Genetic Map of Europe:
Interesting and important Observations
1. Mormon Founder, Joseph Smith Descended from
Nial?
DNA shows Joseph Smith was Irish (from Nial)
By Michael De Groote
http://mormontimes.com/mormon_living/family_history/?id=3142
2.
Yair
Davidiy
Challenge to DNA Experts Remains Unanswered?
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/DNA-R1B1C7/2008-10/1223611771
From: yair < britam@netvision.net.il>
Subject: [DNA-R1B1C7] The Increase??
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 06:09:31 +0200
The Increase??
Re: [DNA-R1B1C7]
MRCA
of R1b1b2e as early as 1388 CE??
At 06:43 AM 10/7/2008, David Wilson wrote:
Yair,
First, a clarification. Any individual who carries or carried the M222
SNP
belongs/belonged
to haplogroup
R1b1b2e as it is currently termed by Family
Tree DNA and the YCC.
The single individual in whom the M222 mutation first
occurred is clearly the common ancestor of all these individuals.
Yair
Replied:
OK. Thank you. And you yourself as you have said incline to the view
that the MRCA lived around 1000 CE.
The total world population of R1b1b2e has been estimated as between
ca. 2 million to 4 million (I have seen both figures referred separately). If we
add in females
that gives us ca. 4 to 8 million possible descendants from one ancestor in 1000
years.
Quite an achievement, think you not?
By way of comparison,
The Bible says that the Children of Israel sojourned in Egypt for 400
years and increased and multiplied.
From 70 males of the family of Jacob who went down to Egypt they
increased to 600,000.
Skeptics have claimed that such an increase is extremely unlikely or
impossible yet now the experts are saying that the MRCA (Nial?) of R1b1b2e all
on his
own did just as well or even better!!
And this is after the Great Irish Famine and other numerous disasters
that decimated the Irish population??
I personally am quite ready to believe that the proposed increase
could have somehow taken place.
I am however surprised that others also accept it.
Could you comment please?
Even so far as to say that I have indeed understood what you are
saying correctly would help.
Yair Davidiy
Jerusalem
Israel
3. The Genetic Map of Europe:
Interesting and important Observations
http://strangemaps.wordpress.com/2008/08/
http://strangemaps.wordpress.com/2008/08/18/306-the-genetic-map-of-europe/
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The isolation of Finnish genetics can be explained by the fact that they
were at one time a very small population, preserving its genetic idiosyncrasies
as it expanded.
The relative isolation of Italian genetics is probably due to the Alps,
providing a geographic barrier to the free and unhindered flow of population to
and from Italy, Although Hannibal, the Celtic and Germanic influence in Italy's
north and of course the expansion of the Roman Empire would seem to contradict
this.
Yugoslav genetic variation is quite large (hence the big pink blob), and
overlaps with the Greek, Romanian, Hungarian, Czech and even the Italian ones.
There is surprisingly little overlap between the northern and southern German
populations, each of which has more in common with their other neighbours
(Danish/Dutch/Swedish in the northern case, Austrian/Swiss/French in the other
one).
The Polish population is quite eccentric as well, only significantly overlapping
with the Czech one (and only minimally with the northern German one).
The Swiss population is entirely subsumed by the French one, similarly, the
Irish population almost doesn't show any characteristics that would distinguish
it from the British one.
British and Irish insularity probably explains why so much of their genetic area
is not shared with their closest European cousins, i.c. the
Norwegian/Danish/Dutch cluster.
Brit-Am Comments:
Note Irish and British considered
genetically the same and separate from the others!
Swiss here considered
identical with the French yet some Swiss Nationalists in the past have
identified more with the Germans.
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