Is Longtom a Shortjohn? Ten out of the Twelve Tribes of Israel were exiled and lost their identity. Their descendants are now to be found amongst Western Peoples. This is proven from the Bible, Talmud, and Rabbinical Sources as well as from Secular Studies in Ancient History, Archaeology, Mythology, Linguistics, and related fields. These are the matters addressed by Brit-Am, Movement of the Lost Ten Tribes of Israel. There are those who oppose us and deny the truth of our message. The claims of one such opponent are answered below. SCROLL DOWN! |
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Is Longtom a Shortjohn?
Reply to Hate and Mendaciousness.
Brit-Am Answer to Brit-Am Exposed - by Longtom (?)
3 May 2012, 11 Iyar 5772
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1. The Exile, Cimmerians, and
Scythians.
2. Cimmerians, Celts, and Hebrews.Other Possibilities Refuted.
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No.1. The Exile, Cimmerians, and Scythians. An article posted on the Long Time Radio End Time Ministry www.ltradio.org attacks Brit-Am. The essay against Brit-Am, Movement of the Ten Tribes is long, about the size of a short book. To see the article go to: www.ltradio.org Put # Britam Exposed # in the Search Box at the top right hand corner and click. A message concerning a .pdf document will come up which you will be given the option of saving or opening. It has just come to our attention that the article by Long John is none other than a COPY OF ANOTHER article. It has been taken from: Myths, Hypotheses and Facts Concerning the Origin of Peoples The "Lost Tribes" of Israel - They Are NOT British - http://www.imninalu.net/myths-brits.htm The author has several aliases but most commonly calls himself Avraham Sandor. He hails from Europe and last we heard was still there (Italy, Gemrany, Hungary?). Anyway in writing this article in reply to the article of Sandor we related to it as authored by Longtom which is the name the version we were dealing with bore. The author (referred to below as Longtom) put time and effort into this piece of poison. He has some knowledge of the subject but appears to confuse Brit-Am with others and to insist on imposing his preconceived prejudices on the factual reality. He also frequently indulges in insulting terminology: In other words he has a dirty mendacious mouth. We will quote parts of it and reply to its malicious content in a series of articles of which this is the first one. This site belongs to some kind of would-be Messianic group. Its articles are in .pdf form and painfully difficult to access and read, assuming anyone would want to do so. By replying to an attack they made against us we are giving them unwarranted publicity. Nevertheless since most of our enemies seem to always come up with more or less the same arguments we shall reply. Our replies may be useful in other contexts. The reader may find explanations for certain issues of importance that otherwise may not have been dealt with. It is interesting that Longtom and company and other reprobates like them are so concerned with the possible influence Brit-Am might have. It shows we may have potential! The article is symptomatic of a certain pathological prejudice and mendacious attitude towards our holy cause. We will therefore quote parts of it and reply to them. It should be emphasized that the purpose of Brit-Am may be summed up in our Three Rs: Research: Discovering who the Lost Ten Tribes are today. Recognition (Revelation): Revealing the information and achieving Recognition of the Research Findings. Reconciliation: Preparing the way for a drawing together of Judah and the Ten Tribes (headed by Joseph) in a Brit-Am Context. We think these aims are good and true ones but other people do not. One of these is Longtom who says: LT: This theory [i.e. Brit-Am Belief] is infecting the web in such a way that whoever intends through any search engine to find anything related with the term "Lost Tribes", will get a string of websites promoting this new deception, listed under different names and claiming theological authority: they are all based on a false philosophy usually known as "British-Israelism", "Anglo-Israelism", "Brit-Am", etc. BAC: He was speaking before the recent Google blackout on Brit-Am. Maybe it was someone like Longtom who caused the Great Google Gaggle? LT: ...henceforth I will refer to this deceptive theory by the name of one of the sects supporting it, Brit-Am... the Brit-Am sect falsely proposes itself as an "Orthodox Jewish" organization and is apparently led by an alleged "Jew", but its pernicious doctrines are widespread mainly through so-called "Messianic" movements (that have no relationship with the true Messianic Judaism, but they give themselves titles that appear creditable and that do not show their actual ideology). BAC: Followers of Brit-Am are to be found in many places and amongst numerous groups. Longtom apparently considers himself qualified to decide not only who is a Jew. He also speaks of Messianic Judaism which does not really exist. Perhaps he means the Baptist-funded organization that used to call itself Jews for Jesus and some of whose adherents have attacked Brit-Am in the past?? LT: They are ultimately anti-Jewish and in their essence they show to be the same as those who believed in the superiority of the so-called "Aryan" race... BAC: Longtom and his gang flatter themselves. Brit-Am does not say that all those of European descent are descended from Israelites but rather only part of those and these were concentrated in areas of Western Europe. Certain types cannot decide what angers them more: We find this phenomenon from time to time. Is Brit-Am bad because it says the Ten Tribes are amongst Western Peoples?? OR Is Brit-Am bad because it excludes most European peoples?? in other words: How dare Brit-Am say the Ten Tribes are amongst Western Peoples? and If Brit-Am does say the Ten Tribes are amongst certain Peoples how dare Brit-Am exclude my own breed of Gentile? LT Actually, the only difference between Brit-Am & co. and nazism consists in defining who is the master race. Their leader presents himself as an "Orthodox Jew rabbi" but paradoxically he preaches a deep anti-Judaism and his ideology is utterly the opposite to Judaism! He is not a rabbi at all, but a deceiver! BAC: Longtom seeks to equate Brit-Am with Nazis. This shows the extremely low level of he himself. The Nazis claimed the Aryans and especially the Germans were a superior race and that other peoples were inferior. They also believed that the Jews should be eliminated. This in effect was their main belief. It is not because the Nazis claimed they were a superior people that they were bad, even though they were mistaken: They were bad because of the way they thought that superiority should be expressed. Brit-Am says that certain peoples are Chosen meaning that they have been blessed and have concomitant obligations towards God and the rest of humanity. This is what the Bible says. What is wrong with this? The fact is that certain groups of people relatively speaking have indeed been more blessed than others: See: The Lost Ten Tribes Identified and the Relevant Statistics. http://britam.org/stats/BAStatistics.html He says that the # leader of Brit-Am presents himself as an "Orthodox Jew rabbi" # . When did the "leader" of Brit-Am ever claim to be a Rabbi? Perhaps they feel that someone as obviously erudite and eminently venerable as Yours Truly could not be anything other than a Rabbi? I am naturally flattered. Thank you LT but I do not deserve it. I knew you were a liar. LT Brit-Am's manifest inferiority complex towards Jews generated the absurd demands to transfer the spiritual status of "Chosen People" that belongs to Israel into an actual ethnic superiority of the Anglo-Saxon peoples over any other, and mainly over Jews, whom they deeply envy and consider to be non-Israelites (in full agreement with the anti-Semites that pass the "Khazar myth" off as a truth and with other preachers of counterfeit stories). BAC: This is a lie. Longtom is a liar and worse. Brit-Am never denied the Israelite origins of the Jewish People. On the contrary we go to lengths to emphasize it. See: WHY THE JEWS ARE JUDAH by Steven Collins and Yair Davidiy http://www.britam.org/judah.html The essay by Longtom is long and detailed. Many of his claims we have already answered in detailed articles on the www.britam.org site. Longtom says: They allege that the ancient Israelites were physically the Nordic type, namely tall people, blue-eyed, fair-haired, and having many other Scandinavian features... BAC: We did not say this. We said that such fair types as described were to be found amongst some of the Israelite groups. We prove it and even supply relevant pictures for it. See: THE PHYSICAL ANTHROPOLOGY OF THE HEBREW PEOPLES http://www.britam.org/anthropology.html Hebrew Pictures http://www.britam.org/HebrewTypes.html We also show and stress that darker types were also plentiful and that the relative types may have varied from one tribe to another. What is the problem with this? In Obama-Land is it already a crime to look like a white-man? What is a Long-Tom anyway? Is it another term for a Short-John? Longtom says that after the Division between Judah and Joseph many from Ephraim, such as the Levites, fled to Judah (2Chronicles 11:14-16). Also during the reign of Asa, King of Judah, many of the Northern Israelites passed to the Kingdom of Judah (2Chronicles 15:9). And he goes on at length quoting how King Hezekiah addressed himself to the Ten Tribes (2Chronicles 30:1,9,10,11,18). He claims in effect that the Ten Tribes became part of Judah. We have answered all these claims and others like them in detail in our articles: The Completeness of the Exile Answers to Deniers of Brit-Am Biblical Truth. http://www.britam.org/CompleteExile.html Israel in Exile Ten Tribes Lost But will Return by Nachmanides http://www.britam.org/Nachmanides.html LT caught in fraudulence. Longtom: Excerpts of the annals of Sargon: "I besieged and occupied the town of Samaria, and took 27,290 of its inhabitants captive. I took from them 50 chariots, but left them the rest of their belongings. I placed my lieutenants over them; I renewed the obligation imposed upon them by one of the Kings who preceded me". The Assyrian king declared: "I left them the rest of their belongings" - this means that he did not carry into exile the whole population, but left people in the land, to whom he left their belongings. He also said: "I placed my lieutenants over them" - it is evident that he would have not appointed lieutenants to govern over an empty land, but they replaced the deposed monarch and ruled in behalf of the King of Assyria over the Israelites that remained. He added: "I renewed the obligation imposed upon them by one of the Kings who preceded me" - the king "renewed" the tribute imposed by his predecessor, probably Tiglath-Pileser III; and a tribute cannot be renewed if not towards the people to which it was imposed before and that are still dwelling in their land. BAC: Note how Longtom quotes Sargon. It sounds like Sargon took away some of the Israelites and then appointed administrators over the others. Sargon actually says elsewhere he took Israelites away, brought in foreigners to settle in their place, and over these newcomers appointed officers. There are different versions of what Sargon said since the engravers of his boastings produced differing accounts in different places. Sargon: Source (a). http://bibleworld.com/arch01.htm In one annal Sargon says: "I besieged and conquered Samaria, led away as booty 27,290 inhabitants of it. I formed from among them a contingent of 50 chariots and made remaining (inhabitants) assume their (social) positions. I installed over them an officer of mine and imposed upon them the tribute of the former king" (ANET, 284 85). In another annal he claims to have rebuilt the town "better than (it was) before and settled therein people from countries which I myself had conquered" (ANET, 284). Samaria actually fell to Shalmaneser in 722 B.C. (Assyrian records and the Bible agree). Sargon began his reign in 721 B.C. and claims some of the credit. Source (b). At the beginning of my royal rule, I, the town of the Samarians I besieged, conquered (2 Lines destroyed) [for the god?] who let me achieve this my triumph. I led away as prisoners [27,290 inhabitants of it (and) equipped from among them (soldiers to man)] 50 chariots for my royal corps.. The town I rebuilt better than it was before and settled therein people from countries which I had conquered. I placed an officer of mine as governor over them and imposed upon them tribute as is customary for Assyrian citizens.. Source: *Annals and their parallels taken from the Display Inscriptions. The Annals are quoted here according to A.G. Lie, The inscriptions of Sargon II, King of Assyria, Part 1. The Annals (Paris 1929). http://www.isaiah666.com/sargon_annals.pdf We show in Lost Israelite Identity how Sargon actually says he took ca. 27,000 for his army and service and exiled the rest! Anyway however it is interpreted, Sargon says he brought in foreigners and exiled the Israelites just like the Bible says the Assyrian King did!! The Bible naturally is proven more accurate than the Assyrian annals that here and there only tell part of the story and change the facts with a promiscuous consistency. 2-Kings 17: 17 In the twelfth year of Ahaz king of Judah, Hoshea the son of Elah became king of Israel in Samaria, and he reigned nine years. 2 And he did evil in the sight of the Lord, but not as the kings of Israel who were before him. 3 Shalmaneser king of Assyria came up against him; and Hoshea became his vassal, and paid him tribute money. 4 And the king of Assyria uncovered a conspiracy by Hoshea; for he had sent messengers to So, king of Egypt, and brought no tribute to the king of Assyria, as he had done year by year. Therefore the king of Assyria shut him up, and bound him in prison. 5 Now the king of Assyria went throughout all the land, and went up to Samaria and besieged it for three years. 6 In the ninth year of Hoshea, the king of Assyria took Samaria and carried Israel away to Assyria, and placed them in Halah and by the Habor, the River of Gozan, and in the cities of the Medes. The Bible says that ALL the northern Israelites were exiled [2-Kings 17:18]. Archaeology shows that at the time of the Assyrian Conquest ALL the Israelite settlements were destroyed. No real Israelite remains have surfaced dating after this time until the return of Jews in the Time of Ezra and Nechemiah. The Bible says they were all taken away. Archaeology shows that they all disappeared. Assyrian Inscriptions regarding the Tribes east of the Jordan, in the Galilee, and in Samaria when considered all together also show that all the Israelites were exiled. Midrashim and Rabbinicial sources indicate that a small minority of Israelites may have remained. Most of these merged with Judah, a few intermarried with the Samaritans who were foreigners settled by Assyria in place of the Israelites. In our web-site articles and publications we discuss all these matters in detail, give the pros and cons of different arguments, and the relevant reference sources. Longtom: There are peoples that keep many features and have enough historical background to claim Israelite ancestry, mainly in Asia and Africa, and some of them are being recognized by the State of Israel. BAC. There are no such peoples with authentic backgrounds. There are various claimants. The State of Israel recognizes none of them. We discuss some of the claimants in our work, The Khazars. Tribe 13. BAC
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