The following notes concern the identities of non-Israelite peoples and
future events. We specialize in the identification of the Lost Ten Tribes
of Israel and take responsibility for the veracity of whatever we say
concerning them. Regarding other matters our opinions are not necessarily
better than anybody elses. We can however look at the sources and make
suggestions that students of the Bible and our subscribers in general may
find useful. Remember, the great philosopher, Maimonides, emphasized (as
did others before and after him) that in order to get to the truth one has
to be prepared to make mistakes from time to time.
[Ezekiel 38:1] AND THE WORD OF THE LORD CAME UNTO ME, SAYING,
[Ezekiel 38:2] SON OF MAN, SET THY FACE AGAINST GOG, THE LAND OF MAGOG,
THE CHIEF PRINCE OF MESHECH AND TUBAL, AND PROPHESY AGAINST HIM,
<: Maybe the name of a leader and that is how the verses incline but it may also be the
name of a nation. There was a country named Gog mentioned in Tibetan
records. It appears to have been somewhere in the region of Mongolia. There
was also a province named Gogarene in Iberia (Georgia) in the Caucasus
Mountains. Maybe the future leader of the heathen hordes will come from the
Land of Gog? Gog was also an ancestral figure in the Tribe of Reuben
(1-Chronicles 5:4). In some early Christian sources (usually Germanic but
also others, see John Mandeville) Gog and Magog were identified with the
Lost Ten Tribes. Both were considered the ultimate arch-enemies. See the
accompanying article, < The Jewsor Lost Ten Tribes. <: Some understand
this to refer to Mongolian peoples in general. Such nations would include
Mongolia, Korea, Japan, Northern China. THE CHIEF PRINCE OF MESHECH: In
Hebrew Rosh (head of) Meshech: Some Commentators understood the word Roshto
hint at Russia. Leon Poliakov (1971, 1974), The Aryan Myth, p.113: <<
Greek thetranslation the Hebrew word rosh (= head, principal, chief) became
a name, that of an eighth son of Japheth, in whom the Byzantines were
anxious to discern the ancestor of the Russians. The Russians for their
part were able to make use of another paronym because russyi means blondin
Russian. The Russians believed that: <<..the future Emperor of the
Universe would come from a blond nation which could only be
Russia. < Ivan the Terrible (1540s) considered himself and the Russian
nobility to be not Russian but German. 19th century genealogists
considered 90% of the Russian nobility to be of non-Slav origin, mostly
western and the rest from the East. Struggle in Russian soul between East
and West. <: Moschi in ancient times dwelt in northern Syria and present
day Turkey. Identifiable with the Phrygians of old. Later moved to Russia
and gave name to such places as Moscow, Moskva River and Mescheryak people
in eastern Russia <: In Classical sources (Jewish and related) Tubal is
sometimes identified with Spain. Maybe the Basques are from Tibal? The
Basques, linguistically, are linked to peoples from the Caucasus Mountains.
Tubal also to be found in Tabali (Tibareni) people associated with the
Moschi in North Eastern Turkey in Ancient times. Tbilisi, Tobolsk, Tobol
River, in Russian area. In general it is possible to identify the above
nations with the forces of Russia and Asia. The Aryan Myth. A History of
Racist and Nationalist Ideas in Europe, by Leon Poliakov (1971, 1974),
chapter six: Russians originally considered themselves grandsons of
Dajdbog. Genghis Khan in 1240 became the first real Tsar of All the
Russias and who is so designated in the earliest writings. He supported the
Russian Church which in turn became a foundation of Mongol domination over
Russia (1240-1480). Totalitarian and collectivist tendencies of Russian
peoples existed long before Communism. From the structure of the
expression, GOG, THE LAND OF MAGOG, ROSH [THE HEAD OF] MESHECH AND TUBALit
sounds as if one entity of united bodies is being spoken of.
[Ezekiel 38:3] AND SAY, THUS SAITH THE LORD GOD; BEHOLD, I AM AGAINST THEE, O GOG, THE CHIEF PRINCE OF MESHECH AND TUBAL:
[Ezekiel 38:4] AND I WILL TURN THEE BACK, AND PUT HOOKS INTO THY JAWS,
AND I WILL BRING THEE FORTH, AND ALL THINE ARMY, HORSES AND HORSEMEN, ALL
OF THEM CLOTHED WITH ALL SORTS OF ARMOUR, EVEN A GREAT COMPANY WITH BUCKLERS
AND SHIELDS, ALL OF THEM HANDLING SWORDS:
<: The Prophets prophesied in terms of their own times. The intention can be vehicles in general.
Ambiguity of Hebrew terms was divinely inspired and can deliberately lend
itself to varying interpretations of equal possible validity.
[Ezekiel 38:5] PERSIA, ETHIOPIA, AND LIBYA WITH THEM; ALL OF THEM WITH SHIELD AND HELMET:
<: In Hebrew Cushwhich term could also be applied to
several lands including Central Asia, Pakistan-Afghanistan, and India.
<: In Hebrew it says Put. Why this is translated as LibyaI do not know.
[Ezekiel 38:6] GOMER, AND ALL HIS BANDS; THE HOUSE OF TOGARMAH OF THE NORTH
QUARTERS, AND ALL HIS BANDS: AND MANY PEOPLE WITH THEE.
GOMER: Germany, Europe. German is also identified elsewhere with Canaan, with Assyria, and
with Edom. These identifications are not necessarily contradictory since
most peoples are a mixture with different elements dominating according to
changes of circumstance. THE HOUSE OF TOGARMAH: Usually taken to mean
Turkey or Turkish peoples;
[Ezekiel 38:7] BE THOU PREPARED, AND PREPARE FOR THYSELF,
THOU, AND ALL THY COMPANY THAT ARE ASSEMBLED UNTO THEE, AND BE THOU A GUARD
[Ezekiel 38:8] AFTER MANY DAYS THOU SHALT BE VISITED: IN THE LATTER
YEARS THOU SHALT COME INTO THE LAND THAT IS BROUGHT BACK FROM THE SWORD,
AND IS GATHERED OUT OF MANY PEOPLE, AGAINST THE MOUNTAINS OF ISRAEL, WHICH
HAVE BEEN ALWAYS WASTE: BUT IT IS BROUGHT FORTH OUT OF THE NATIONS, AND THEY
SHALL DWELL SAFELY ALL OF THEM.
According to the simple meaning all this is happening AFTER Judah and the Lost Ten Tribes have re-united and have
divided the Land of Greater Israel between the tribes and are dwelling safely.
[Ezekiel 38:9] THOU SHALT ASCEND AND COME LIKE
A STORM, THOU SHALT BE LIKE A CLOUD TO COVER THE LAND, THOU, AND ALL THY
BANDS, AND MANY PEOPLE WITH THEE.
[Ezekiel 38:10] THUS SAITH THE LORD GOD; IT SHALL ALSO COME TO PASS,
THAT AT THE SAME TIME SHALL THINGS COME INTO THY MIND, AND THOU SHALT THINK
AN EVIL THOUGHT:
[Ezekiel 38:11] AND THOU SHALT SAY, I WILL GO UP TO THE LAND OF UNWALLED
VILLAGES; I WILL GO TO THEM THAT ARE AT REST, THAT DWELL SAFELY, ALL OF THEM
DWELLING WITHOUT WALLS, AND HAVING NEITHER BARS NOR GATES,
[Ezekiel 38:12] TO TAKE A SPOIL, AND TO TAKE A PREY; TO TURN THINE HAND
UPON THE DESOLATE PLACES THAT ARE NOW INHABITED, AND UPON THE PEOPLE THAT
ARE GATHERED OUT OF THE NATIONS, WHICH HAVE GOTTEN CATTLE AND GOODS, THAT
DWELL IN THE MIDST OF THE LAND.
[Ezekiel 38:13] SHEBA, AND DEDAN, AND THE MERCHANTS
OF TARSHISH, WITH ALL THE YOUNG LIONS THEREOF, SHALL SAY UNTO THEE, ART THOU
COME TO TAKE A SPOIL? HAST THOU GATHERED THY COMPANY TO TAKE A PREY? TO CARRY
AWAY SILVER AND GOLD, TO TAKE AWAY CATTLE AND GOODS, TO TAKE A GREAT SPOIL?
<: Spain, South America, Italy. Japan? Closing in for the kill to carry away whatever
will be left of the spoils.
[Ezekiel 38:14] THEREFORE, SON OF MAN, PROPHESY
AND SAY UNTO GOG, THUS SAITH THE LORD GOD; IN THAT DAY WHEN MY PEOPLE OF
ISRAEL DWELLETH SAFELY, SHALT THOU NOT KNOW IT?
[Ezekiel 38:15] AND THOU SHALT COME FROM THY PLACE OUT OF THE NORTH
PARTS, THOU, AND MANY PEOPLE WITH THEE, ALL OF THEM RIDING UPON HORSES, A
GREAT COMPANY, AND A MIGHTY ARMY:
Hordes of German, Slavic, and Asiatic peoples
will come pouring down out of the north in an attempt to conquer the Land
of restored Israel in which the Twelve Tribes are dwelling. The Ishmaelites
(Arabs) and Edomites (parts of Europe) will already have been defeated and
placated. What will cause this fantastic movement of peoples of Gog and
Magog? It is impossible to know. Does the Land of restored Israel include
only the geographical regions between the Nile and the Euphrates or may it
not also entail the present regions occupied by these people that will be
revitalized, cured of their sicknesses and restored to their original
blessed potential. Could it be that there will occur climatic changes,
ecological disasters, and/or manmade calamities of nuclear or chemical
origin? The possibilities are endless? For some reason predatory hordes of
heathens will come up against Israel to disinherit her and attempt to
destroy her and take what is hers. Do not seek logic everywhere. The USA,
Britain, and the Jews are hated everywhere for no apparent reason. On the
contrary they have done more good to others than anyone else ever has.
Nevertheless many foreigners hate and despise them fanatically and
spitefully. Maybe their very goodness and susceptibility to the rights and
feelings of others is taken as weakness. Who knows if not in the darkest
regions of our psychology we seek a victim or a culprit to blame for our
own failings. Sometimes this task is fulfilled by our parents, or our
spouse, or a friend and mentor, or somebody else who indeed may not be
entirely innocent. On a national level the Israelite nations may be
resented precisely because they are innately better and blessed. Man for
man, foreigners often feel immensely superior to us and cannot understand
why we appear on a national level to have more than they and to tell them
what to do. [And what makes it worse is that they really often do need
telling.] The message of Brit-Am is that by Israelite nations supporting
each other and the State of Israel (and vice-versa) they are not doing
anybody any favors, rather they are helping themselves. In a sense this is
an unending war of light against darkness and those who have been called to
partake of the task of goodness are warriors
[Ezekiel 38:16] AND THOU SHALT COME UP AGAINST
MY PEOPLE OF ISRAEL, AS A CLOUD TO COVER THE LAND; IT SHALL BE IN THE LATTER
DAYS, AND I WILL BRING THEE AGAINST MY LAND, THAT THE HEATHEN MAY KNOW ME,
WHEN I SHALL BE SANCTIFIED IN THEE, O GOG, BEFORE THEIR EYES.
[Ezekiel 38:17] THUS SAITH THE LORD GOD; ART THOU HE OF WHOM I HAVE
SPOKEN IN OLD TIME BY MY SERVANTS THE PROPHETS OF ISRAEL, WHICH PROPHESIED
IN THOSE DAYS MANY YEARS THAT I WOULD BRING THEE AGAINST THEM?
[Ezekiel 38:18] AND IT SHALL COME TO PASS AT THE SAME TIME WHEN GOG
SHALL COME AGAINST THE LAND OF ISRAEL, SAITH THE LORD GOD, THAT MY FURY SHALL
COME UP IN MY FACE.
[Ezekiel 38:19] FOR IN MY JEALOUSY AND IN THE FIRE OF MY WRATH HAVE
I SPOKEN, SURELY IN THAT DAY THERE SHALL BE A GREAT SHAKING IN THE LAND OF
[Ezekiel 38:20] SO THAT THE FISHES OF THE SEA, AND THE FOWLS OF THE
HEAVEN, AND THE BEASTS OF THE FIELD, AND ALL CREEPING THINGS THAT CREEP UPON
THE EARTH, AND ALL THE MEN THAT ARE UPON THE FACE OF THE EARTH, SHALL SHAKE
MY PRESENCE, AND THE MOUNTAINS SHALL BE THROWN DOWN, AND THE STEEP PLACES SHALL FALL, AND EVERY WALL SHALL FALL TO THE GROUND.
[Ezekiel 38:21] AND I WILL CALL FOR A SWORD AGAINST
HIM THROUGHOUT ALL MY MOUNTAINS, SAITH THE LORD GOD: EVERY MAN'S SWORD SHALL
BE AGAINST HIS BROTHER.
The heathen hordes will fall out with each other and begin to exterminate one another. This is to be expected.
[Ezekiel 38:22] AND I WILL PLEAD AGAINST HIM WITH
PESTILENCE AND WITH BLOOD; AND I WILL RAIN UPON HIM, AND UPON HIS BANDS,
AND UPON THE MANY PEOPLE THAT ARE WITH HIM, AN OVERFLOWING RAIN, AND GREAT
HAILSTONES, FIRE, AND BRIMSTONE.
[Ezekiel 38:23] THUS WILL I MAGNIFY MYSELF, AND SANCTIFY MYSELF; AND
I WILL BE KNOWN IN THE EYES OF MANY NATIONS, AND THEY SHALL KNOW THAT I AM
<: The heathen will know and we should not forget. Forgetfulness
happens to all of us sometimes. Sickness, depression, disappointment
sometimes can cause us to distance ourselves from the Almighty.
Nevertheless He is always with us and we can return to Him.