Brit-Am Now 1013

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"Brit-Am Now"-1013
Contents:
1. Wales, Israelites, Gomer, and the Jews
2. Harry Gaul: Loved you on Tamar's show
3. Question on a literal understanding of the Midrash and Keeping the Commandments
4. Question on the Khazars, Ancient Israelites, and DNA
5. Finland a Lost Tribe of Israel?

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1. Wales, Israelites, Gomer, and the Jews
From: Eric Bowen
Subject: Re: Wales and the Jews

Hello Yair,
Are you familiar with the book "The Chosen People: Wales and the Jews", by Davies? Say what you like about ancient connections, but this includes a dramatic modern one: an old Welsh legend that resulted in the founding of the state of Israel. (See the part about David Lloyd George.)
...here is a quick synopsis of the book.

In the 18th century CE, two Welsh churchmen promoted the idea that the Welsh people were descended from the ancient Hebrews through Gomer, grandson of Noah, and that the Welsh language is descended from Hebrew. The idea became widespread among the Welsh, to the point that they developed a "philo-semitic" view of the Jews: a sense of kinship that over-rode religious differences.

From this tradition came David Lloyd George, a Welshman who became Prime Minister of Great Britain during the First World War. Lloyd George directed his minister Arthur Balfour to issue the famous Balfour Declaration in favor of a Jewish homeland in Palestine, and followed up by ordering General Allenby and the 54th Welsh Division to liberate Palestine from the Turks. The subsequent British Mandate over Palestine opened the door to widespread Jewish immigration into what later became Israel, which was only curtailed following Lloyd George's departure from office.

Shalom / Heddwch,
Eric Bowen
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2. Harry Gaul: Loved you on Tamar's show

I heard you guys on the show with Tamar Yonah, and loved every minute of it.. I am Chrokee by know heritage, I know my family has been here since before white man came..a couple years ago I had my D.N.A. done and found I am J1A, who came from the near east.. It seems that Hewbrew is my herritage.. Odd enough,, All my life It seems I've always had a deep love for Israel and yearned to be among the people there..
Thanks for answering many of my questions,, I hope to hear you again on Tamar's show..
Could you put me on your mailing list for new info. and findings..Thanks
G-d bless and keep you.. Teresa Gaul
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3. Question on a literal understanding of the Midrash and Keeping the Commandments
Anna wrote:

Shalom Yair.

Thanks for answering my question regarding Toldos 26:5, but please know my question was not meant to be controversial.

I agree that returning Israelites MAY follow Torah if they want to and it will be a blessing to them! But how is that to be accomplished?

It's taken me a while to return this letter because I realized you misunderstood my question regarding Abraham following Torah by Devine Inspiration.

I ask if the Rabbinical Midrashic- style Exegesis is not to be taken literally, why is it written up in The Stones Edition as a commentary on Toldos 26:5?

What aspects of the Law do you think are relevant for returning Israelites? It's a difficult thing to answer people who ask me.

Kind regards.

Anna.

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Reply:

We were not precise enough with what we said.
A Midrash-Agada (legend) of the type you quoted may be taken literally by some.
Its main point however is the message it conveys.
For example take the commandment of Yibum (Leviritical Marriage) as explained in Deuteronomy ch.25.
The Commandment is that when a man marries a woman and dies without children
his brother (from the same father) marries his widow or the widow releases him of his obligation.
The idea is that the woman remain in the family and if possible bear children through that family.
The principle behind the idea existed before the giving of the Torah.
In Genesis chapter 38 we are told how the son of Judah, Er, married Tamar, and then passed away.
Tamar was then given to Onan who also died. Judah told Tamar to wait until the third son, Shelah,
was old enough and he would marry her. Judah however thought that Tamar was bad luck and did not give
her to Shelah when the time came. Tamar then went and disguised herself as a harlot, seduced Judah,
and bore him a son.
Nachmanides explains that before the giving of the Torah the principle of Yibum could be fulfilled by ANY
member of the family and only after the Giving of the Torah was it restricted to the brother of the deceased.
After the giving of the Torah the obligation falls ONLY on the brother and not on any other member of the family.
Before the giving of the Torah either Judah or his sons could have fulfilled the obligation and therefore Tamar
was within her rights by seducing Judah.
In the same way it may be said that A|braham kept all the torah even before the Torah was given in so far
as he fulfilled the intention of the Torah but not necessarily each and every commandment as it was later formulated.

As to what commandments a non-Jewish Israelite should keep and how they should keep them
we cannot say. Keeping Kosher food laws or at least not eating forbidden foods could be a beginning.
In the US a lot of people now eat Kosher for health reasons.
At all events this beyond our jurisdiction.
God bless you
Yair Davidiy

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4. Question on the Khazars, Ancient Israelites, and DNA
Jan wrote:

Dear Sir:

If you look at the Internet, there are a lot of malicious bloggers claiming that Ashkenazim are a mixture with Khazars. However, it is not difficult to find the DNA of modern Ashkenazim and compare it to the DNA of ancient Israelites...

What are your views on this matter?

Jan

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Reply:
DNA of Ancient Peoples is a difficult topic.
We are looking for articles on this subject all the time and finding very few.
It is controversial.
Apparently it is very difficult to extract and also considered not reliable.
Whatever the case if you come across any sources on the subject please let us know.
See what we have written concerning DNA on our web-site.
http://www.britam.org/DNA/DNAContents.html
We actually believe that DNA can and does change in "one-time events" repeated over.
DNA scholars however disagree with us on this issue and that is why (I assume) we are barred from their discussion groups.
Nevertheless from the little that has been published we can guess that Ancient DNA findings bear out Brit-Am more than is admitted.

Getting back to DNA and Ashkenazim according to conventional science.
The Ashkenazim on the whole (at least the males) have similar DNA to the Sephardim (Eastern Jews).
What the DNA of the Khazars was nobody knows.
About 20% of Ashkenazim have YDNA R1a which is found in 30% of Norwegians, many Russians, and Poles.
It may be that the 20% of Ashkenazim who have YDNA R1a descend from East Europeans or it may be that
their ancestors were exposed to the same environmental circumstances that gives rise to R1a.
DNA is in effect another name for Genes. Genes determine hair color etc and this ultimately is a result of environment
so therefore the DNA must be as well.

At all events DNA findings may indicate (depending on how they are interpreted) that Ashkenazis have some
foreign genetical input but this does not apply to most of them and neither does it mean that the source is due to
the Khazars.
Apart from all that the Khazars were a people that if one were descended from them one should be proud of it.
See our articles on the subject:
http://www.britam.org/KhazarIndex.html

Concerning Ancient DNA cf. the following URL which was the fourth answer received from a Google Search on Ancient DNA:

"Ancient DNA may be misleading scientists"
http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s786146.htm
Ancient DNA in skeletons has a tendency to show damage in a particular region, resulting in misleading genetic data and mistaken conclusions about the origin of the skeleton, British scientists said.

A group of researchers at the Henry Wellcome Ancient Biomolecules Centre of the University of Oxford, in Britain, made the finding while studying Viking specimens. They found that about half of the specimens had DNA that suggested they were of Middle Eastern origin.

But more detailed analysis revealed that many of the genetic sequences in the double helix molecule, which carries the genetic information of every individual, were damaged at a key base that separates European sequences from Middle Eastern genetic types - damage which made the skeletons appear to have originated in the Levant.

The results are published in the February 2003 issue of the American Journal of Human Genetics.

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5. Finland a Lost Tribe of Israel?
From: Ope Tuslapsi
Subject: Awareness of Finns being the tribe of Issachar rises

This link tells It quite good.

The Identity of Finland
by
Rainer Salomaa & Allan Reipas
http://www.giveshare.org/israel/finland.html

Brit-Am Comment: The site has an interesting array of articles containing information of value.
The first article contains the statement:
"It?s interesting to not that during this war General Mannerheim, commander-in-chief of the Finnish forces between 1939 and 1944, led a Finnish attack against the Russians under the banner of the tribe of Issachar! "
We have heard this or similar statements before and have repeated it
but see the protest of a Finnish citizen who claims that it is not so:
"Brit-Am Now"-767
http://britam.org/now/767Now.html
#3. Marshall Mannerheim Never Referred to Issachar?

See also the quote from Stanley Olson (also used by us in "The Tribes" but we got it from S. Gustav Olsen):
Yet another race ? a mixture of Scythians, Greeks and Hebrews, bearing the name Neuri joined themselves to both of the two previously mentioned races. Thus from three peoples they became like one, who moved toward the west to our Finnish and Swedish belts of rock off the coast. In regard to the Neuri, who actually are the very tribe in the direction of the Finns, Lapps and Estonians, it should be noted that they are found to be remnants of THE TEN FAMILIES OF ISRAEL, who Salmanasser, the King of Assyria, took captive from Canaan. After one and a half year?s traveling, they moved to a land where no man had yet dwelt, called Arfareth and corresponds to the Scythians? Arfaratha. When one finds how much the languages of the old Finns, Lapps and Estonians agree with the Hebrew, plus the fact that this people anciently figured the beginning of the year from the first of March and figured Saturday as their Sabbath, one also sees that the Nueri in all probability have had this origin? (Dalin, Sven-rikes Historia, Volume I, pp. 49-55, emphasis mine). Interesting words!
AND IN THEE SHALL ALL FAMILIES OF THE EARTH BE BLESSED [Genesis
12:2-3].

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