"Brit-Am Now"-1042
Contents:
1. New ArticleWorth Reading
2. Brit-Am Answers to Criticisms Only Under Certain Conditions
a. Most Criticisms Already Answered
b. Articles, etc Need URLs
c. A Minimum Degree of Courtesy is Required.
d. Brit-Am is not to be Associated with Bad People
e. Brit-Am Will Not Relate to Queries Not Directly Addressed to us!
f. Brit-Am Welcomes Questions and Debate
3. Is Ephraim Speaking to the Wall? Brit-Am replies.
4. Carol: Nothing Outside the Bible is Acceptable
5. Brit-Am, Oral Law, and an Intermediate Conclusion.
1. New Article
Worth Reading
Joseph in the Eyes of the "Rebbe"
http://www.britam.org/sefatemet.html
Characteristics of the Tribes According to Rabbinical Sources.
Headings:
Joseph the Inner Essence
Joseph the Nazirite
Joseph and Redemption
Joseph and Matters of this World.
Joseph, the Covenant, and Shabbat
Joseph and Being a Hebrew
Joseph and the Need for Truth
"Joseph" means "Increase"
Joseph and Hiding Ones Self
Judah and Joseph: Truth and Faith
Joseph the Leader despite the Others!
All Israel must Partake of the Qualities of Joseph
Joseph helps all Israel become Israelite!
Joseph Set the Precedent!
Acknowledgement of the Truth
Joseph, Shabat, and Judah
Joseph, the Written Torah, and the Oral Law
Joseph and the Patriarchs
Joseph Needs Judah!
Joseph Connects the Written Torah to the Oral Torah
Joseph Compared to Benjamin
2. Brit-Am Answers
to Criticisms Only Under Certain Conditions
We received a series of postings from F.L.STATON staton07@bellsouth.net>
The postings contained chapters from the book,
"The History of the Ten Lost Tribes: Anglo-Israelism Examined by
DAVID BARON.
F.L.STATON sent us six postings.
Only one of them had the URL for the booklet
and at first we missed it.
At all events,
A search engine inquiry showed us that the booklet is available
for perusal at:
http://www.bibletopics.com/BibleStudy/152b.htm
We will look it over.
"F.L.STATON" <staton07@bellsouth.net> in his posting to us
had the headings:
From: "F.L.STATON" <staton07@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: so there !!
Subject: white israelism is a lie
and in the cc: listings were a few notorious so-called "Christian Identity"
reprobates.
At all events this posting brings up the need to clarify a few issues:
a. Most Criticisms Already Answered
Most, if not all, claims that may be made against Brit-Am especially from
a Biblical
perspective have been answered by us on the Brit-Am website.
In this context it is worth noting especially the articles:
"
The Completeness of the Exile
Answers to Deniers of Brit-Am Biblical Truth"
and
"Answer to an Anti-Identity Polemic"
http://www.britam.org/Polemic.html
b. Articles, etc Need URLs
Anything taken from the web or from any publication that may require our
attention
should include the source with it, i.e. in this case the URL should have been
given
on every posting.
c. A Minimum Degree of Courtesy is
Required.
This is elementary.
d. Brit-Am is not to be Associated with
Bad People
We should not have been included in a listing with the CI criminal
element.
Our name should not even be recalled in the same breath as them.
e. Brit-Am Will Not Relate to Queries
Not Directly Addressed to us!
Anyone with a specific query relating to Brit-Am studies should address
it to Brit-Am.
If one comes across criticism levelled against some other entity
but which may involve the Brit-Am domain then the Brit-Am attitude to the matter
may be enquired of.
We will not however from now on deal with articles, pamphlets, etc directed
against others
even if the "others" on some points held or hold similar ideas to our own in
certain areas.
f. Brit-Am Welcomes Questions and Debate
Despite all the above Brit-Am is pleased to answer questions (when and if we
know the answers)
connected with Brit-Am beliefs. We are also open to debate issues that concern
us.
Some of our greatest research breakthroughs and conceptual insights have been
occasioned
through debates we held with others.
3. Is Ephraim
Speaking to the Wall? Brit-Am replies.
Bob wrote:
Yair, Shalom
Our understanding of Prophecy (Isaiah and Hosea) is that Judah will be a
forerunner and will prepare the way for the other tribes. What Is Judah doing
to prepare the way? How many times can you tell a wall my name is Ephraim. How
much proof do you need before that it is enough proof?
Replies:
You asked:
(a) What Is Judah doing to prepare the way?
(b) How much proof do you need?
(a) What Is Judah doing to prepare the way?
Consciously Judah is not necessarily doing anything but otherwise it is doing
very much.
Judah on the whole does not who Ephraim is.
Judah will probably not know for awhile unless Brit-Am receives somewhat more
support than it has done heretofore.
Brit-Am in the past received a little help from Judah that enabled us to do the
preliminary research and get started.
In order to continue we are now mainly in need of Ephraim. This appears to be
how Divine Providence wants it.
Judah is preparing the way by bringing in Jews to the Land of Israel and
arousing the Hebrew instincts amongst
Ephraim and Joseph. The present arousal concerning Hebrew Origins amongst
Ephraimites and Christians in general
is in large part occasioned by the existence of the State of Israel .
The State of Israel is being helped by Joseph which in some degrees reflects an
unconscious arousal on the part of
Ephraim.
Nevertheless it is the State of Israel which is "leading the show" at present
and going ahead sometimes with the help of,
and at other times in spite of, Joseph.
In other words Judah is doing more than any other party at present.
They who wish that Judah do more can make a contribution by supporting Brit-Am.
(b) You asked,
How many times can you tell a wall my name is
Ephraim. How much proof do you need before that it is enough proof?
Brit-Am replies:
What Proof?
Brit-Am has proof. So do some other groups.
But how well-known is it?
How accepted and acceptable is it?
Do you even relate to it?
If you do, do other Ephraimites?
There are some Ephraimities who treat our proofs almost with contempt and say
that it should be enough
with what they know to be true in their hearts.
This attitude might be sufficient for those who are convinced and their friends
but for most people it is not enough.
In our opinion, the proofs must be known.
There must be a widespread knowledge of them.
The Biblical and Rabbinical evidence is very important and knowledge of it
should be widely spread.
This should be supplemented with secular evidence.
The outside world and conventional academic community will probably always treat
us with a certain degree of disdain.
Nevertheless, by making our findings known widely and by refining them through
more and more research
and propagation of our findings an effect can be made.
This should be the first step.
It has hardly started so far.
You asked,
"How many times can you tell a wall my name is Ephraim?"
That about describes it. That about says what most Ephraimites are doing.
They (apart from a special few) are not helping Brit-Am either because they
cannot afford to or because Brit-Am is not in line
with their theological views. And they are not doing much else either except
maybe speaking to the wall and complaining.
4. Carol: Nothing
Outside the Bible is Acceptable
Subject: Re: "Brit-Am Now"-1041
#4. Charlotte Mecklenburg: "we would all belong to Judah's stick"
I totally agree with Charlotte Mecklenburg's comments on believing anything
outside the bible itself. I failed to mention this in my other e-mails as I
never thought it was important. I keep telling you there are many, many of
Joseph's stick who have come out of "religion" and churches and follow only the
bible. It is a freedom I could not describe. I believe the people I have just
mentioned (and in the past) are ready for The Most High to do the joining
Himself.
Carol Harwell Senna
5. Brit-Am, Oral
Law, and an Intermediate Conclusion.
re "Brit-Am Now"-1038
http://britam.org/now/1038Now.html
#1. Joseph and the Law: A Challenge to Ephraimites
Brit-Am said:
<<We recently came across a source (in the Rabbinical Commentary "Sefat Emet")
http://www.britam.org/sefatemet.html
saying that Joseph represents the
understanding of the Oral Law as emerging from the Written Law and the
connection between the two..
<<We would like to throw out a conceptual challenge to all Ephraimites:
If it could be proven to your satisfaction that the Oral Law emanates from the
Written Law
would you keep it??
<<If not, why not??
In a sense the question was somewhat not rational and maybe not fair.
We ourselves usually refuse to answer questions that we consider hypothetical.
One either believes something to be true and then deals with it
or one does not believe it and therefore it becomes irrelevant.
At all events the question stirred up much interest and we received many
well-thought-out replies of high quality most of which we have not posted.
Very few however actually answered the question.
Some told us why they do not believe in the Oral Law while others explained why
(even if true) they could accept the Oral Law.
Many gave answers similar to those of Carol (no.4 above) or of Thomas Grey
in the previous posting:
http://britam.org/now/1041Now.html#41Thomas
In short they said that, like the Early American revolutionaries who threw
off the yoke of
the British Monarchy, having come out of servitude to human authority they could
never
submit themselves again.
Together with this the impression was that if they received a commandment
from a Prophet or someone like one they would obey him.
This brings us back to square one and our need for a Future Messiah
(Messiah son of Joseph or Messiah son of David) or a precursor
of one (in the Spirit of Elijah) to resolve the religious issues and differences
between us.
Fair Enough.
At least we have cleaned the air between us a little.
It also lead us to write our article on the "Sefat Emet" and Joseph
and this may lead to a whole series of articles on related subjects.
Perhaps the extract below is pertinent to our Intermediate Conclusions?
Joseph the Leader despite the Others!
http://www.britam.org/sefatemet.html#Leader
Year 5635
In Heaven Joseph was chosen but the
generality of Israel wanted all of the Tribes. We may assume that it is all true
and ultimately the same since by merit of the holiness of Joseph the Righteous
the other Tribes each merit coming to their own position.
Brit-Am Commentary: Joseph was chosen by heaven to become the supreme ruler.
The other Tribal Ancestors would have preferred an assembly representative of
each of them. This was not to be. Nevertheless the bottom line is that in our
inner beings we all want what is good for everyone else. Whoever becomes the
leader if they do their task properly may well achieve the good of all which is,
or should be, the main concern.
