The Brit-Am Rose
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Brit-Am Now no. 1130
Date 14th April 2008, 9 Nissan 5768
Contents:
1. Great New Article
THE SONG OF SOLOMON. A New Love Story
2. Question on Pre-Assyrian Exile Migrations to Europe?
3. Brian Patmore
: The Edward
Bradbrooke Question no.1
4. Henry Rhea: The Edward Bradbrooke Question no.2
5. Brit-Am Reply: The Edward Bradbrooke Question no.3
6. Was Elvis Jewish?
7. Dave Browning: Race - Not the People, but the System
1. Great New Article
THE SONG OF SOLOMON.
A New Love Story
http://www.britam.org/SONGSOLOMON.html
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2. Question on Pre-Assyrian Exile Migrations to Europe?
Tom Mitchell wrote:
YAIR:
I HAVE HEARD THAT LEVITES AND OTHERS LEFT FOR THE NORTHWEST AREAS AFTER THE EXODUS.APARENTLY THEY WERE FED UP WITH THE OTHER TRIBES WHINNING AND STALLING. IVE NEVER SEEN PRIIF OF THIS DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ON THIS??
Brit-Am Answer:
It sounds like an attempt to reconcile Irish Chronicles and their Chronology with Israelite origins.
Irish Chronicles (which apply also to the Scottish and Scots-Irish) concerning their origins often contain names
and indications
of Israelite origin. The problem is that the dates given in these sources are long before the Israelites were exiled.
Brit-Am accepts the major message but rejects the dating as reflecting artistic licence influenced by Classical Learning.
Old British Israel writers however accepted the dating and tried to reconcile it with Israelite origins by
proposing
an earlier migration of Zerah of Judah etc to the west.
There are Jewish sources (quoted here and there in our works) that say that Israelites migrated before
the Assyrian Exile. One source (the Nattziv) says that in the Time of Judges many left the Land.
Another legend (quoted by Eldad HaDani ca. 800 CE) says that the Tribe of Dan or part of it left in the
Time of Jeroboam i.e. ca. 900 BCE.
These sources however appear too uncertain for us to relate to seriously.
As for the Levites.
Originally the Levites were scattered in their own townships throughout all the Tribes of Israel.
The Levites consisted of Priests (Cohens) who were to perform sacrifices etc in the Temple
and ordinary Levites who did other functions such as gatekeeping and singing in the Temple service.
They also taught the people the Law and acted as an auxiliary police force and border patrol.
From the beginning most of the Cohens were concentrated in the south in areas that later pertained
to what became the Kingdom of Judah. This may help explain why today amongst the Jews there appear to
be more Cohens than Levites.
As we said the Levites acted as instructors to the people.
After Jeroboam led the northern Ten Tribes in setting up their own kingdom
he appointed religious functionaries of his own and in effect demoted the Levites.
[1-Kings 12:31] AND HE MADE AN HOUSE OF HIGH PLACES,
AND MADE PRIESTS OF THE LOWEST OF THE PEOPLE, WHICH WERE NOT OF THE SONS OF LEVI.
Consequently the Levites moved southward into the Kingdom of Judah.
[2-Chronicles 11:5] AND
REHOBOAM DWELT IN JERUSALEM, AND BUILT CITIES FOR
DEFENCE IN JUDAH.
[2-Chronicles 11:13] AND THE PRIESTS AND THE LEVITES THAT WERE IN ALL ISRAEL RESORTED TO HIM OUT OF ALL THEIR COASTS.
[2-Chronicles 11:14] FOR THE LEVITES LEFT THEIR SUBURBS AND THEIR POSSESSION, AND CAME TO JUDAH AND JERUSALEM: FOR JEROBOAM AND HIS SONS HAD CAST THEM OFF FROM EXECUTING THE PRIEST'S OFFICE UNTO THE LORD:
[2-Chronicles 11:15] AND HE ORDAINED HIM PRIESTS FOR THE HIGH PLACES, AND FOR THE DEVILS, AND FOR THE CALVES WHICH HE HAD MADE.
[2-Chronicles 11:16] AND AFTER THEM OUT OF ALL THE TRIBES OF ISRAEL SUCH AS SET THEIR HEARTS TO SEEK THE LORD GOD OF ISRAEL CAME TO JERUSALEM, TO SACRIFICE UNTO THE LORD GOD OF THEIR FATHERS.
From the context and continuation of the verses it would seem that not all the Levites came to the southern kingdom
permanently
but rather that some of them came to sacrifice in Jerusalem and later returned to their own inheritances.
At all events it appears that most of the Levites joined themselves to Judah though some did not.
Jewish Legends sometimes refer to sections of the Levites and the Children of Moses as being attached to the Lost
ten tribes. We have discussed this in our work "Ephraim".
One of these legends strongly suggested that the Lost Ten Tribes were in France and the British Isles and/or Ireland.
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3. Brian
Patmore: The Edward
Bradbrooke Question no.1
From: Brian Patmore <manco_yupanqui@bigpond.com>
Re: Brit-Am Now no. 1129
#1. Edward Bradbrooke: Canaan, the Bible, and Geography
http://britam.org/now/1129Now.html#Edward
Shalom Yair,
I am very interested in the statements made by Edward Bradbrooke regarding the land of Chanaan.
Does Brit-Am have any clarifying comments regarding these statements.
I do not profess to be a great authority in this regard but would appreciate clarification of the statements
made, one by one so that indeed a correct understanding can be very apparent.
For example, we all know that the House of Israel went to the "North and the West" to the end of the Earth
(the Western Coast of Europe) and the islands beyond (off the Western Coast of Europe.)
This example makes clear and its meaning is common sense.
Similarly clarification would be good relating to the statements made by Edward.
However, despite all that he states I, in my limited understanding know very well that the Land of Moab
and the Land of Edom (around the area of Mt Seir - spelling may be erroneous) are both in what is presently
called Jordan, across on the Eastern side of the River Jordan.
Anyway, I feel that the points made need clarification for the confused.
Many thanks and may Hashem bless all the work taking place.
Shalom,
Brian
Brisbane
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4. Henry Rhea: The Edward
Bradbrooke Question no.2
Re: Brit-Am Now no. 1129http://britam.org/now/1129Now.html#Edward
#1. Edward Bradbrooke: Canaan, the Bible, and Geography
Perhaps I'm dense, but I'm not following what Edward Bradbrooke is
saying. I'll agree that the various descriptions of the land
following Genesis 15 don't comply with the land described in the
covenant made with Abram, but I think perhaps it is forgotten that
the various descriptions are for various times in the total history
of Israel. As such, the borders will naturally differ from time to
time, even as the borders of the United States have historically
changed, as have the borders of the European nations, as well as
modern Israel since it's independence and birth as a modern nation.
The Alsace-Lorraine region of Europe has at various times been in the
possession of both Germany and France, its most recent possessor,
just as the Golan Heights were possessed by Syria and now are in the
hands of Israel.
To say that the Great Sea is not the Mediterranean is utterly beyond
me. What other sea meets the geography of Israel of the day, and
fits within the limits of the land between the Nile and the
Euphrates?
Mr. Broadbrooke says "Show me the 2 Bays mentioned in Joshua 15 if it
describes the area mentioned in Genesis 15."
Simply get a Bible Atlas, or any Atlas showing the Dead Sea and you
will see down near the southeastern corner of it a Peninsula jutting
west and Northward. Along the southern shoreline or that peninsular
region you will see a bay facing south. Does this not lie within the
area between the Nile and the Euphrates? As for the other, "the bay
at the mouth of the Jordan," of Joshua 15:5, is that not
self-explanatory? If looking at a map does not show any significant
bay at the mouth of the Jordan, not all bays are significant in size
sufficient to be shown by the scale used to draw the map. But where
else is the mouth of the Jordan than at the north end of the Dead
Sea? Is this not within the area between the Nile and the Euphrates?
To try to claim the lands possessed by descendants of the peoples
driven out of the Promised Lands is to try to claim more than was
promised in that Covenant between God and Abram. Don't get too
greedy. That land is for others, and never was a part of the
Promised Land. Or you had just as well adopt Islam, and claim all
the earth by jihad as your right.
Henry Rhea
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5. Brit-Am Reply: The Edward
Bradbrooke Question no.3
Re: Brit-Am Now no. 1129
#1. Edward Bradbrooke: Canaan, the Bible, and Geography
Brit-Am understands the various delineations of the Boirders of Israel in the Bible to describe the
same general region only using different terminology and geographical indications.
This approach is that taken by Bar-Deroma ("Ze Gevul Ha-Aretz") whose work on the borders of the
Land of Israel we accept as a general guide and standard of reference.
On the other hand, Scripture has many "faces" or aspects.
The same verses may describe the situation at the time concerned as well in some cases
as hinting at future developments.
We do not agree with Edward Bradbrooke but his approach may be worth considering.
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6. Was Elvis Jewish?
From: Dennis McGinlay <dennis.mcginlay@virgin.net>
Re: Brit-Am Now no. 1123
http://www.britam.org/now/1123Now.html#Dave
#2. Dave Browning: "the Jews are only 2/12ths"
Dear Yair
David Browning's remark that Elvis Presley was 'legally a Jew intrigued me. David, what do you base this belief on?? As a BIG fan of Elvis I'd like to know. I know he had Scottish blood and as a Scot I'm pleased about that.
Shalom Yair
Brit-Am Reply: The name Presley is probably Welsh. Elvis apparently was descended from several disparate lines including a Scottish one.
It has also been claimed that Elvis had Amerindian blood and was partly Melungeon.
The Jewish claim says that his great-great-grandmother on the maternal side was Jewish and all along the female line
the mother of the mother etc was Jewish and therefore technically so was he!
See:
http://www.jewishlegends.com/displayExp.php?rumor=57
The source of Elvis' Jewish lineage was noted in Elaine
Dundy's 1985 biography, "Elvis and Gladys." The book was largely ignored until 1998 when the Wall Street Journal quoted the book tracking the King's Jewish roots. In the book, Dundy states that Elvis' maternal great-great-grandmother, Nancy Tackett, nee
Burdine, was Jewish. If so, Elvis' mother Gladys, as well as Elvis himself, was Jewish, as according to Jewish law, a person's
Jewishness
is determined by their mother..
See also:
ELVIS & WYATT EARP:
THE JEWISH CONNECTION
http://starrsecrets.blogspot.com/2006/06/elvis-wyatt-earp-jewish-connection.html
Can you imagine Elvis with a yarmulke in his back pocket and a Jewish grandmother in the family tree? Or the legendary lawman Wyatt
Earp going from the infamous gun battle at the OK Corral to his Orthodox Jewish in-laws for Passover
sedar?
Oy
vey and pass the grits, IT'S TRUE!
Elvis loved no one more in this world than his mother, Gladys, whose great grandmother, Nancy
Tacket, was Jewish.
While his mother was fascinated by her Jewish heritage, she warned the young Elvis to keep it quiet because,
"People don't
like Jews."
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7. Dave Browning: Race - Not the People, but the System
Re: Brit-Am Now no. 1126
http://britam.org/now/1126Now.html#Tessa
#2. Tessa in New Zealand: More Thoughts on Racial Considerations
Dear Yair, et al,
In watching the discussion I noticed the notion of "race" pop its ugly lil head up. One person of all the contributors got it perfect; "there is no race in Scripture, only families".
Jdg 2:21-23 I also will no longer drive out before them any of the nations which Joshua left when he died, in order to test Israel by them, whether they will keep the way of the LORD to walk in it as their fathers did, or not." So the LORD allowed those nations to remain, not driving them out quickly; and He did not give them into the hand of Joshua.
The previous chapter of Judges is a litany of the failures of the sons of Israel's to drive them out. Were it not for the fact Israel put them to "forced labor" it would be easy enough to assume Israel was weak, or somehow inferior, and not able to "drive them out", note there is a difference in the notion of "drive out" and "totally destroy" as is the main them of Joshua.
The main reason Israel could not do this seems related to the curious "chariots of iron" mentioned 5 different times in both Joshua and Judges. This is a rather strange concept "chariots of iron" and such a contraption would be highly impractical on any ancient battle field due to its weight. Also the use of iron during the time of Joshua and the Judges is not at all common. The iron age begins in earnest (assuming the Exodus period at ~ 1450s) some 500 years later during David's time, but the introduction of iron spear and arrow tips is suggested to be the ultimate technical cause of the northern tribes and Samaria's fall in the early 700s.
I only mention this as it is often unsaid; the technical advancements the peoples of the area, which Israel was commissioned to destroy, enjoyed. The Hittites had learned about iron very early on, but this technology did not pass to other peoples until the Assyrians rose to dominate the area (of the Hittites), it is reported that at one time iron was more valuable than gold. Assyria being the first world class, dominating empire, indeed a beast (the first beast) of Daniel and Revelations.
I'm not sure how much Canaanite, Hittite, Amorite, Perizzite, Hivite, and Jebusite blood formed the Phoenicians, but I assume it is substantial. By the way, does anyone know of any relationship between these "Amorites" and those (Armenia-Amorica) mentioned in the opening of the Anglo-Saxon Chronicles, and also in Bede's ecclesiastical history of Briton?
The word Phoenician is a greco-latin word involving "purple" (possibly from a dye extracted from shelf fish of the area), what these pheonecians called themselves is unclear. This is important because it was the Phoenicians, who carried a modified form of the Alef-Bet to southern europe, and thereby huge blocks of the English Alphabet came from. Indeed, the mighty Carthaginions ultimately trace their origins to the Canaanites (sons of Canaan).
By the way, does anyone know of a connection in the words phoenicia and philistine (Palestine) and punic (as in the Punic wars)?
My point in all this being it wasn't necessarily the people, the families... but rather their system, their governing and spiritual (religious) mechanisms which were the object of the Almighty's loathing. Which is important only in the sense it is these same systems (the systems of the beasts of Daniel-Assyria, Medo Persia, Greece, and Rome) that we barbarian's have embraced, and foster, indeed force upon the world.
love,
davey
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