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I believe that Sithones were Phoenicians (Canaanites). Perhaps they were also Israelians.
I believe that Jotuni's (Jotuns) come out of Eytuns, that is Edomites. Fornjotun (ancient Edomite) was the first King of Kvenland.
In Kym j rvi (Swedish Lappland) there is a ancient stone with ogam writing. The area now belonging to Sweden once was Finnish area. The stone text says Place of Baals things.
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Hi Yair.
I just found one interesting thing about my familyhistory. Centuries ago my relatives lived nearby Ladoga and Onega. Their familyname was Mattenen, Mattein or Matt . I believe that this familyname means tribe in Hebrew (Matt) [Hebrew: Mateh=Tribe] as this word does not mean anything in Finnish.. My father's mother's familyname was Matt , also It was my father's father's mother's mother's father's father's familyname. The family is very large. They were living mostly in Hame (sea -> Jam, Yam, Jam/Jem/Jam, Jamit)[Hebrew: Yam=Sea]. Here is homepages of the family. http://www.kolumbus.fi/maattanen.m-r/11.htm
My relatives lived in a town called Kuusamo. There people used to say that for every ten man in Kuusamo, there is twelve Matt 's. Matt 's were people with many children..
I wish Israel happy 60's birthday and all blessings to that truly brave and fine nation.
Hi Yair,
I am pleased to inform new intresting findings that I have made recently.
As I am not an expert in Hebrew language, you must confirm all as Israelian.
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Now What does this mean for Finland ?
There is people group called hame's ( ham l iset ).
[Hebrew: Yam=Sea]
Their ancient name was Jami's. And that came out of Jams (Jam/Jem).
How the name of Jam (Jam ) transfers to Ham (Hame) ?
Perhaps Iberians spelled J as H and James accepted the name pronouncing ?
Anyway It is known that Jami's are equal to the Hame's.
http://www.strang.ch/SUKU/SUURSILL-vanha.HTM
http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%A4%C3%A4mit
http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novgorodin ... mien_sodat
http://kirjasto.jamsa.fi/kotiseutu/paik ... index.html
http://www.histdoc.net/history/desc1561.html
Old Cronicles of Nestor in Russia tells us about the wars between Jams and Novgorod.
There is places in Estonia as Jaama marketplace in Tallinn, Jaama in Tarto, Jaama city in Ingria (now Russia, former Livonia, Finland and Sweden) that now is called Kingisepp after Viktor Kingisepp. The Kingisepp also had name Yamsburg. There is a Jaama village in northern Finnish Carelia and Jams in lake Finland comes out of Jams.
In this text is told that Jams lived near to Onega (Oninen) and Ladoga before going to the west in two streams virolaiset (estonians) and ham l iset (jams).
Jaama -placenames (Yam, Jam) are confirming this unsure information..
http://agricola.utu.fi/hist/kktk/kansa1860/Tmk1860-2b.html
These links are Finnish
http://www.jaamankyla.net/
http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaama / http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingisepp
http://www.kontiolahti.fi/fi/?ID=1696
http://geokartta.gtk.fi/pdf/sel431411.pdf
http://fi.wikisource.org/wiki/H%C3%A4meen_linnan_esi-_ja_rakennushistoria:Novgorodin_ja_Ruotsin_taistelu_H%C3%A4meest%C3%A4_Tuomas_piispan_viime_vuosiin_asti
The name variants is because I believe Jam was actually saed J m like It is Jam in english.
I don't know how hebrew word J m is pronounced. Jem comes out as swedish pronouncing of J m ( -> e) . Rusis were vikings and they had relationship with swedish people. That is also seen as large quantities of R1a on both countries. R1a is not much seen in Finland, R1b either. Finland consists most I1a and N3 (now renamed as N1
See how Yamburg is found in Nenets people.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamburg
http://www.geocities.com/benselig/pic1yam.html
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Explanation of Yamburg
http://www.geocities.com/benselig/yamorigin.htm
The origin of the name "Yamburg"
It is widely believed that the name "Yamburg" means "Big Bog" in the language of the Nentsy. Those who maintain this believe that the name was formed by linking two Nentsy words together: "yam", meaning "big" and "burg", meaning "bog". This explanation appears to be very dubious indeed. Nadezhda Moshenskaya, director of the Yamburggazdobycha museum at Yamburg settlement, asked Ye.G.Susoy, a senior research fellow of the Institute of National Schools of the North (a Russian research institute), to shed some light on the mystery surrounding the origin of the name. The following is a summary of Susoy's response.
First some background on similar words. The word "yam" in Nentsy means "large amount of water, big river, bay". There are several geographical names in the YNAO that include "yam". For example, there are three large, oblong lakes called Yambuto, two on the Yamal Peninsula, the other on the Gydanskiy Peninsula ("-to" means "lake" in Nentsy). Yam-Sale is the name of a cape on the coast of Obskaya Guba (Ob' Bay). Yamsavey is the name of a silty river which flows into the River Pur south of Novyy Urengoy.
Next, what about the origin of the name "Yamal"? At the beginning of the 20th century the name of the Yamal Peninsula was written "Yammal". It means "the edge/end of the earth".
In the Priural'skiy Rayon (District) of the YNAO there is a tiny settlement called Yambura. "Yambura" can be translated from Nentsy as "rotten, peaty place". But "peat" in Nentsy is "pur". So from the two roots "yam" and "pur" one gets "yambura". Another similar word is "Yambarka". It means "oblong", "long" and relates to lakes and hills.
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Yammal - end of the earth ???? Isn't that a place in Old Testament ?
http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luokka:Jamalin_Nenetsia
http://wapedia.mobi/fi/Jamalin_Nenetsia
http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamal
http://www.maanystavat.fi/oil/bruce.htm
http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamali
http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jomali
http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumi
There is pagan god named Jomali which either comes from Jom-el, Jom-al, Jam-el or Jam-al. God in Finnish is Jumala. See how the word Jama in Finno-ugrian is somehow related in Juma in some languages. Jumala is actually meaning of place of Juma. Suffix -la means place. There is Jomala in land (Island belonged to Finland, Ahvenanmaa) and Jurmala (in former Livonia).
http://pakana.150m.com/jumalat.htm
Now let us go back to Jams or actually J ms. In Sweden, there is a area called J mtland. I believe, that Jams went there also.
Who were the Joms-vikings ?
http://www.geocities.com/armdury/jomsborg.pdf
Hame's or Jams lived alltheway to the Ural mountains.
This Finnish part of the text tells that Komys (Permians) are Jams.
Translation.. Our before mentioned history knows that J ms lived alltheway to the Ural Mountains. Castren tells that Syrj nies (group of people living faraway from anywhere) have telled stories that before their arrival, their country was inhabitated with people named Komy or Gamy, which he has not better explained, but which Sj gren, the one of the best educated Finns in St. Petersburg, proofs meaning J ms, which he also nearby Ural mountains with the same name has heard speaking of.
See how areas are in Finland.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regions_of_Finland
Better detailed information in Finnish sites..
http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suomen_maakunnat
Is there other ancient hebrew words in Finlands places ?
One word without expanation is Kemi (I believe, comes out Kem = black in Egypt) .
Then there is Sumi and Emi.
Look at this source.
http://heninen.net/sortavala/1785/osa7_e.htm
1785
The abstract from the book
"Travelling by Ladoga and Onego lakes"
by academician N.Ozeretskovsky
Part VII
...The historical notes about the ancient times of Olonets region and the peoples that lived there are following.
According the oldest Russian and foreign writers acknowledged to be very probable and approved by the Notes about the Russian history, the lands of the Olonets region belonged to the ancient Rosses or Russes, who, by their courage and bravery spread their possessions from Finland to as far to the east as the Belt Mountains1 and from the White sea as far to the south as Dvina River and Polotsk region. So all Karelia, part of Lapland, the lands of the Great Russia2 and Pomorie with Perm were called Rus before coming of the Slavs.
The ancient inhabitants of Olonets Gubernia with the high sureness may be said to be Permians, of the great Perm or Biarmia that spread from Pechora and Vychegda rivers to Finland and occupied all old Karelia and modern Olonets, Archangelsk and Vologda regions3. If the similarity of languages proofs the common origin of the nations or long close interaction, the modern languages of Karelians and Zyranians4 - old inhabitants of Archangelsk Gubernia - can prove the aforesaid. Many nations lived under the common name of Biarmians - starting from Finland: Karelians, then to the East - Emi5, Dvinians, Yugra, Saami6 and then Perm. Initially they had their own princes, well-known by their bravery and battles, but later came under the arm of Russia. The exact time of the conquest of the Biarmia is not known, but it is well-known that later Karelia was a possession7 of Novgorod and its inhabitants at the beginning of XIII century were often sent for loot or vengeance on Emi and Sumi - the nations that lived at that time nearby.
The borders of the ancient Karelia, that was bordering with Finland and acted as a war theatre with Sumi, Emi and constant enemy of Novgorod - Swedes can even now be estimated by the Russian settlements going from the Southern shores of the Onego Lake to Karelian Shore of the White Sea. Russians occupied these places, very fit for fishing, and pushed the pristine inhabitants to the inside of the land. The nearest to Russian settlements (situated not farther than 20 miles away) are still called The First Karelia.
The inhabitants of these places still use their natural language, on which Russian do not speak.
Of the aforesaid nations that lived previously in Biarmia Emi and Sumi should be specially noted. Especially because they were the nation closest to Russia and for about two centuries were at constant war with Novgorod. The reseacher of Russian history Mr.Tatischev proposed that Emi lived on the Northern part of the Ladoga Lake, from Karelia to Dvina River5. The towns of Kemsky Ostrog and Sumsky Ostrog, still having old names supports this idea. It is also supported by the facts that Sumi and Emi were close neighbours and accomplices of the raids on Russia. They always fight together and at any sign of possible loot came together on the boats. That proofs that they lived close to each other. And if Sumsky Ostrog can be said as a place where Sumi lived, the Emi should be have modern town of Kem as their capital
Pay attention to Finnish version where is named muinaish m l iset eg. j mit..
Now I told that J ms (Jaamat, Jaamit, Jams, J ms, J mit, h m l iset) were also known as Jems. In old swedish map the J mtland in Sweden is mentioned sometimes as Jemtland, sometimes as Emtland. Emi was a city in Viena. I believe that It is proof of Jams (Jems, Yems, Ems) being there. Who were the sumi's ? They perhaps gave name to Suomi.. What does sumi mean ? And who were Kems ? Saami's (saamelaiset) in Finnish Lapland have been told being as blackmen. Their language is different from Finnish. Although everbody agrees that earliest mention about Finns may mean them, atleast scricfinns (skifinns).
So what does actually name Yahmi mean ? I believe, that J ms are Israelians. Issachars son Yahmi may be the tribe but I am not sure. Maybe It is just the same word.
But Is it just a coinsidence or not that people in history has been named as seapeople. Veps l iset (Vepcians) are also called Vesi/Visi (water) or perhaps visigoths.. And Livonians are called people by the beach.. and Pomorje people in Viena come out of Po more, by the sea.
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THEN ADDITITION TO TEXT ABOVE, I HAVE FEW OTHER THOUGHTS...
Who were the seapeople in the bible ? Was Issachar the phoenicians or seapeople and was some of the Finnish seapeople phoenician ? Finland still has many shipbuilding places for large or small ships and perhaps that is knowledge from Phoenicians.
Sidon was a state in Canaan. Scandinavians were sithons by tacitus 97 ad.
Sithons may turn to Cwen people, because of their strong women. Kvenland was the first Kingdom in Scandinavia and many European kings derive from that Kingdom. Kvenland was situated in Finland. See www.kvenland.com.
In Canaan there was a man called Goliath. He was very big. In Finland big ones in Mythology was Fornjotur and Kaleva. In history there is V in Myllyrinne, Daniel Cajanus and Lauri Moilanen. http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%A4in%C3%B6_Myllyrinne
They all come from a small town called Paltamo in Kainuu (Kvaenu -> Kven -> Cwen) It has been discovered that there really is a gene that makes people giant !!!
Here is a link in Finnish to the discovery.. It saes that if tumor groves when a child, It makes a giant, If as an adult akromegalia happens..
http://www.bioteknologia.info/uutiset/
biolaaketiede/fi_FI/Jattilaisgeeni_tunnistettu/
So once in a hundred year there should be a giant in Finland...
I believe that Sithones were Phoenicians (Canaanites). Perhaps they were also Israelians.
I believe that Jotuni's (Jotuns ) come out of Eytuns, that is Edomites. Fornjotun (ancient Edomite) was the first King of Kvenland.
In K ym j rvi (Swedish Lappland) there is a ancient stone with ogam writing. The area now belonging to Sweden once was Finnish area. The stone text says Place of Baals things.
http://www.hermeetikko.com/Julkaisu/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=27
AND ? BL ? CDHH --> Ianod Bel/Bal Cuith
Second message from old wooden stick is
(L)Ng?BT?FNC?CDHH?LBD that is ships from Finica (Finland).
Is Fenni/Finni -tribe of Finland from Foinicia.
In spanish and Italy Foinicia is actually Fenica or Fenicia.
I don't know I this is a proof. Finns and Israelians have 40 genes connecting to same diseases. Also Karelian dog looks like Israelian. And there is Canaan (Kaanaa) nearby Turku, Jerusalemi nearby Joensuu.. If you go northward to the end of the world from the ancient hole Israel, where do you end up ? Finland, Carelia and Viena, agree ?
All this may be just coincidence..
Well This is enough for now. I get back after I have something new to add.
Yours
Arsi Saarijarvi
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