"Brit-Am Now"-519
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 09:38:00 +0200
From: Yair Davidiy
"Brit-Am Now"-519
Contents:
1. Question on Colored People amongst Israel
2. Kyle Ingle: Will History Repeat Itself?
3. 70 Clans of Israel versus 70 Nations
4. Are Some Palestinians Also From the Lost Tribes?
5. Joan Griffin: Earthquake in Jerusalem Prophesied

1. Question on Colored People amongst Israel
claudia wrote:
hi yair, i greatly respect your opinion and knowledge so here is my question. i preface this by saying i love people of color so this is in no way disrespecful towards them. i only strive towards learning the truth. a certain well known messianic rabbi is teaching large numbers of black folks that abraham, isaac, and jacob married black women, and that they come from them. is there some truth in this? thankyou kindly for your answer. shalom, claudia

Answer:
Shalom,
No such thing. Who is this "certain well known messianic rabbi"? It could be that some of the Tribes were darker than others.
The evidence is ambiguous. Both dark and light colored individuals were present in Ancient Israel.
See what we wrote on the subject in "The Tribes" and at:
http://britam.org/anthropology.html
THE PHYSICAL ANTHROPOLOGY OF THE HEBREW PEOPLES

2. Kyle Ingle: Will History Repeat Itself?
Subject: Will History Repeat? Probably...

Hello to all

My name is Kyle and I am a fairly new subscriber and visiter to the Brit-Am web page (I did blue/white Rose Flag of the United Tribes of Israel). Being in College and seeing the moral decay of a once great America all around me, I am excited and refreshed at learning of my identity (Scotch-Irish family) as being that of Israelite descent, and only wish that I could do more to help spread this amazing truth. A Truth which, given the hopelessness of many, could help them find purpose and hope for a better future. And getting to my point, it is the future that I would like make point of here. This is what an anonymous subscriber wrote:

""Without access to the original land given to our forefathers, the idea of Ephraim returning to Israel is not likely or even inviting. Will we have to again fight the 'squatters' to regain the land of our birthright? My forefather, Sir Michael fought in the 11th century (3rd crusade) under the family crest of the Ephraim unicorn. Later, the land gained was lost to the Moslems due to infighting of the Ephraim nobility. There is a host of wishful thinking (even in this group) pertaining to the reuniting of Ephraim and Judah but little action toward a practical solution to make this possible. If Ephraim does not have its land as given to us by YHVH, it cannot be reunited with Judah.""

I read that and, well, I fell depressed!! I have seen subscribers make comments about prophecies pertaining to the manner in which Joseph will gain a foothold on their old lands before the reunification takes place, and that the present US/British presence in Iraq is the start of this. I would have to agree, but perhaps this anonymous writer and others need a little historical reminder of past Israelite struggles to make the transition from an 'easy' home life to a 'new world' more realistic...(thank you Steven Collins & Brit-Am for your works on this!)

Thanks to God, David and Solomon were able to expand Israel into an Empire whose size and majesty modern academia refuses to accept, despite mountains of evidence. Though they were powerful, moral and spiritual decay set in, and a once defeated foe rose again, and amidst the bickering between the north and south the Assyrians carried away many Israelites into captivity. Most, however, fled the lands and headed north into "Scythia" and some west into 'Iberia', Carthage and Britain.

After years of captivity under different masters, the captured Israelites, now known as "Parthians" or 'the lost ones' according to ancient texts, rebelled and formed a new Empire even grander than the old one: Parthia. The only empire able to stand against Rome. But once more, decay set in, and they spurned God and his ways. The last victory against the Romans was at a murderous cost, and the Persians were finally able to successfully rebel against the Israelites/Parthians. Killing all Pathian nobles and hating everything 'Semitic', the Persians forced most Parthians/Israelites to flee once more into the Caucausus Mountains, where they mixed with their Israelite/Scythian brothers and flowed into Europe as the 'Goth','Vandals',Saxons and others.

And yes, throughout the next few centuries, Joseph regained his strength and independence from his 'continental' oppressors, and two new Israelite Superpowers emerged: 1st Britain, and then the USA. But as with before, decay has set in, and Britain has already lost her empire, and though America is in its prime, we are already dying spiritually.

Question is, what series of disastrous events must occur in order to convince MILLIONS to believe that Iraq,Jordan,Syria and Israel are better places to be than the USA and Britain? And what could possibly happen to convince these people of these lands to change their ways and/or accept "Israelites" into their countries? Ezekiel says unprecedented WAR, FAMINE, PLAGUE AND FIRE, to put it simply. Its happened before, and we all know that the foretold 'last days' will not have ANY parallel in history as far as violence, destruction and death is concerned, so how can anyone doubt that GOD HIMSELF cant put a 'broken stick' back together? Moving to a new home is always hard, especially when there is uncertainty, but it helps to know and trust that your "mover" knows what He's doing (and that HIS price is not unreasonable!!). Kyle

Brit-Am Comment: See our past posts and also the web-site below that warns of a possible disaster due to global warming.
http://www.truthout.org/docs_05/012805V.shtml


3. 70 Clans of Israel versus 70 Nations
Question:
From: healingforthenations
Subject: 70 clans
Shalom,

Please tell me who the 70 clans of Israel are in relationship to the assingment of the nations in the earth .Origins ,Pg 108.

Answer:
[Deuteronomy 32:8] WHEN THE MOST HIGH DIVIDED TO THE NATIONS THEIR INHERITANCE, WHEN HE SEPARATED THE SONS OF ADAM, HE SET THE BOUNDS OF THE PEOPLE ACCORDING TO THE NUMBER OF THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL.

I understand this verse and other Biblical references to hint that in the course of history in the past or in the future Messianic Era the Israelites will rule over all other peoples. At the least all other peoples will have been or will be greatly influenced by Israelites. Furthermore each specific tribe and each clan within the tribe will be allocated a non-Israelite nation over which they will have their own unique influence and interaction. All present nations are descended from Noah.
In Genesis 10 are listed 70 nations that came out of Noah.
In Genesis 42 it lists 70 male members of the family of Jacob all of whom later become clans in Israel and we have shown how many of them became great nations in their own right. See our book "The Tribes"
[Genesis 46:26] ALL THE SOULS THAT CAME WITH JACOB INTO EGYPT, WHICH CAME OUT OF HIS LOINS, BESIDES JACOB'S SONS' WIVES, ALL THE SOULS WERE THREESCORE AND SIX.
Each Israelite clan therefore had his own non-Israelite nation that in some way or other the clan would interact with. This theme need to be developed further.
We do find the name "Tarshish" in the Tribe of Benjamin (1-Chronicles 7:10)
and the name Gog in Reuben (1-Chronicles 5:4) and these are the names of know non-Israelite nations.

4. Are Some Palestinians Also From the Lost Tribes?
Subject: Many Palestinians ARE the 10 tribes returning

Dear Yair,
Recent yDNA testing of Palestinians has confirmed that many Palestinians (many who were from Christian origins before the 20th century) are more closely related to the European returning Jews than the Jews returning from Ethiopia. This strongly suggests that many Palestinians are the returning house of Ephraim (10 tribes) and are not some other race. They are brothers to Judah (Jews) and therefore MUST be given a place in the land of Ephraim ... Many of your writings suggest/imply otherwise. Palestinians should not have Jerusalem which was given to Judah.
Shalom
Mar +David of Hava, OC, MEd, MS, DD, ThD
... a prince of Ephraim
Reply
: Your Statements may be broken down to several levels and answered accordingly:
Biblically:
[Zechariah 9:6] AND A BASTARD SHALL DWELL IN ASHDOD, AND I WILL CUT OFF THE PRIDE OF THE PHILISTINES.
[Zechariah 9:7] AND I WILL TAKE AWAY HIS BLOOD OUT OF HIS MOUTH, AND HIS ABOMINATIONS FROM BETWEEN HIS TEETH: BUT HE THAT REMAINETH, EVEN HE, SHALL BE FOR OUR GOD, AND HE SHALL BE AS A GOVERNOR IN JUDAH, AND EKRON AS A JEBUSITE.
Some (recent non-Jewish?) have suggested that these verses indicate that a remnant of the Palestinians (Philistines) will remain and become part of Judah just as part of the Jebusites became converted to Israel and dwelt in the regions of Judah and Benjamin. see Joshua chapter nine: re The Gibeonites. Even if this explanation is correct it is referring to a minortiy.
Zephaniah says the Palestinian-Philistines will disappear:
[Zephaniah 2:5] WOE UNTO THE INHABITANTS OF THE SEA COAST, THE NATION OF THE CHERETHITES! THE WORD OF THE LORD IS AGAINST YOU; O CANAAN, THE LAND OF THE PHILISTINES, I WILL EVEN DESTROY THEE, THAT THERE SHALL BE NO INHABITANT. Isaiah as we continually explain says that Judah and Ephraim will co-operate in flying the Palestinian-Philistines to someplace in the west.
[Isaiah 11:14] BUT THEY SHALL SWOOP DOWN UPON THE SHOULDER OF THE PHILISTINES IN THE WEST [ In Hebrew:"THEY SHALL FLY THE PHILISTINES AWAY WESTWARD"], AND TOGETHER THEY SHALL PLUNDER THE PEOPLE OF THE EAST. THEY SHALL PUT FORTH THEIR HAND AGAINST EDOM AND MOAB, AND THE AMMONITES SHALL OBEY THEM.

Quite a few additional verses can be added to the above but they all contain the same basic message.
There can be no compromise. It is a religious duty to induce the Palestinians to leave the area.
The alternative involves the suffering of innocent and good people on both sides of the equation.
Palestinians who want to identify with Judah and with Israel will find a way to do so.
They can also find their way to the Lands of "Joseph" and eventually find their way back in that direction.
No-one needs to feel "shut out on an individual or family basis
but when dealing with a mass of people distinctions may be difficult to make.
Israel always accepted the stranger who attached himself to us but he must do the attaching.

Religious wise: Most Palestinians are Sunni Moslems. Some are Christians but mainly of the non-Biblical type and most of these have left the land of Israel due to the situation, better opportunities elsewhere, and rising Moslem intolerance.

DNA wise: There were tests that received a lot of publicity for political reasons that indicated some closeness between the Jews and Palestinians. These tests have been criticized as showing deliberately skewed results and exaggerated conclusions. [We have discussed this in the past and given examples of inconsistencies in the said findings]. Historically some Palestinians may be descended from Jews and Israelites who converted (by force or choice) to Christianity or Islam. Also in some cases there were alleged connections with Arab women and the children were raised as Arabs. The proportions concerned were not great.

Our own explanation of any DNA similarity between Jews and Palestinians is that the DNA types were determined by environment and all those in the area at a certain time were liable to be affected. Any similarity that exists (and it is actually much less than sometimes stated) may therefore be attributed to the ancestors of both parties having been in the same area at the same time with additional intermixing to a limited degree at a later stage.

Our explanation is at least as acceptable as the conventional one in addition to being consistent with Scripture. Regarding the Ethiopian Jews they are a minority who tend to keep to themselves and on the whole they very much identify with Judah and have done so for many centuries. They are not a factor in the equation of Identity since every group has the right to accept outsiders as part of themselves when these outsiders identify unreservedly as the Ethiopian Jews do, see us (Ezekiel 47:22).

The Palestinians Must Leave:
[Exodus 23:30] BY LITTLE AND LITTLE I WILL DRIVE THEM OUT FROM BEFORE THEE, UNTIL THOU BE INCREASED, AND INHERIT THE LAND.
[Exodus 23:31] AND I WILL SET THY BOUNDS FROM THE RED SEA EVEN UNTO THE SEA OF THE PHILISTINES, AND FROM THE DESERT UNTO THE RIVER: FOR I WILL DELIVER THE INHABITANTS OF THE LAND INTO YOUR HAND; AND THOU SHALT DRIVE THEM OUT BEFORE THEE. [Exodus 23:32] THOU SHALT MAKE NO COVENANT WITH THEM, NOR WITH THEIR GODS.
[Exodus 23:33] THEY SHALL NOT DWELL IN THY LAND, LEST THEY MAKE THEE SIN AGAINST ME: FOR IF THOU SERVE THEIR GODS, IT WILL SURELY BE A SNARE UNTO THEE.

[Deuteronomy 7:22] AND THE LORD THY GOD WILL PUT OUT THOSE NATIONS BEFORE THEE BY LITTLE AND LITTLE: THOU MAYEST NOT CONSUME THEM AT ONCE, LEST THE BEASTS OF THE FIELD INCREASE UPON THEE. [Deuteronomy 7:23] BUT THE LORD THY GOD SHALL DELIVER THEM UNTO THEE, AND SHALL DESTROY THEM WITH A MIGHTY DESTRUCTION, UNTIL THEY BE DESTROYED.

[Joshua 3:9] AND JOSHUA SAID UNTO THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL, COME HITHER, AND HEAR THE WORDS OF THE LORD YOUR GOD. [Joshua 3:10] AND JOSHUA SAID, HEREBY YE SHALL KNOW THAT THE LIVING GOD IS AMONG YOU, AND THAT HE WILL WITHOUT FAIL DRIVE OUT FROM BEFORE YOU THE CANAANITES, AND THE HITTITES, AND THE HIVITES, AND THE PERIZZITES, AND THE GIRGASHITES, AND THE AMORITES, AND THE JEBUSITES.
If we do not cause the Palestinians to leave they will do so (and worse) to us:
[Numbers 33:55] BUT IF YE WILL NOT DRIVE OUT THE INHABITANTS OF THE LAND FROM BEFORE YOU; THEN IT SHALL COME TO PASS, THAT THOSE WHICH YE LET REMAIN OF THEM SHALL BE PRICKS IN YOUR EYES, AND THORNS IN YOUR SIDES, AND SHALL VEX YOU IN THE LAND WHEREIN YE DWELL. [Numbers 33:56] MOREOVER IT SHALL COME TO PASS, THAT I SHALL DO UNTO YOU, AS I THOUGHT TO DO UNTO THEM.
We already see this about to happen before our eyes. The Jewish Government in Jerusalem under American and International pressure has already taken steps to expel the Jews from the Gaza area and from Northern Samaria. This is after having been forced to give up the whole of the Sinai Peninsula some years back. Those who are against expelling the Palestinians are in favor of expelling the Jews. This is against the will of the Almighty.

5. Joan Griffin: Earthquake in Jerusalem Prophesied
Subject: Re: Jerusalem News-339--Earthquake
Yair,
You said: 4. The Coming EarthQuake in Jerusalem
A question of when...

If you take a look at Zechariah 14 (KJV), you can see that when Messiah comes, the Mount of Olives will split in two. That has got to be one gigantic earthquake. I can't imagine how anything of Jerusalem will be left standing... Basically, the Bible says Messiah will come at a time when Jerusalem is surrounded by enemies who are standing up for a battle. It certainly seems that the world is line up against Jerusalem (and Israel) now. Most of all, it says water begins flowing out of the new valley, and it "heals" the Dead Sea, etc. because it is such a strong fountain. Maybe the government should authorize a little digging for water now. Joan
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