"Brit-Am Now"-780
Contents:
1. Dal Riada in Scotland
2. Personal DNA: The U Neil Mystery (not O'Neils!)
3. Brit-Am seeks the following addresees:
4. Irish Milesian (?) Tradition
5. Proverbs 8:6-11
1. Dal Riada in Scotland
498 CE - Birth of Scottish Dal Riada
http://www.clannada.org/time_498ce.php
by Cinaet Scotach
The Birth of the Kingdom of Scottish Dal Riada took place circa 498 A.D. when Fergus Mor MacErc moved the royal seat of Irish Dal Riada to Dunnadd in Argyll on the west coast of Alba. The name Dal Riada means Riada's share. According to the traditional Irish genealogies, Cairbre Riada, the son of Conaire and grandson of Conn Ceadchathach (Conn of the Hundred Battles), led his people out of Munster and north to Antrim where their own land was founded...Dal Riada.
Irish Dal Riada was caught between the powerful Ui Neill's on one side and the Dal nAraide (Cruthin) on the other. With these two powerful and warlike neighbors, the only avenue for expansion was over the twelve mile stretch of the North Channel and into Alba. Over the years, several groups of Irish settled in Northern Briton, and some even in the south. All were either eradicated in one way or another or assimilated into the indigenous cultures over time. The only Irish settlement to withstand the test of time was the Dal Riada, who had been occupying the territory for as long as 100 years before Fergus Mor MacErc moved his throne to Dunnadd.
Very little is known about the early Kingdom of Scottish Dal Riada or its first King Fergus. It is believed that Fergus's father Erc MacEochaid and possibly his older brother held the throne before him in Ireland. Erc died in 474, leaving a space of 24 years unaccounted for in the Kings lists. Most historians feel that it could have been held by Fergus's older brother Loarn MacErc. Fergus died in 501 A.D.. In some later accounts it is said that he was killed by his followers. He was followed on the throne by his son Domangart MacFergus.
2. Personal DNA: The U Neil Mystery (not O'Neils!)
Brit-Am continues to "piggy-back" on the results of my son's
DNA test but it is all in the game and some find it of interest.
As we have stressed in the past we are not sure just how
valid such tests are but we have also constantly admitted that they may
say something to some degree.
Anyway, the results of the DNA markers we received (and not the report-commentary
that was sent along with it which was not correct!!) place us
(assuming it is accurate) with
the U Neil group also known as Northwest Irish Modal (M5UKQ),
hg (haplogroup) R1b1c7, and U Neil.
The U Neil may be connected to the founder of the O'Neil
clan and some of the leading families BUT most O'Neils do not belong to it
but rather to another grouping.
The "U Neils" however are not lacking for members
and number an estimated 3 or 4 million people if not more
alive today somewhere in the world.
If they all got together
they could even found their own country somewhere!
In Northwest Ireland they already account for ca.one-third of the
populace!
This whole affair is still something of a shock to me.
On the one hand,
I always kind of liked these people.
I even wrote a book (now out of print),
"Lost Israelite Identity. The Hebrew Ancestry of Celtic Races",
a portion of which (the Milesians?) could be said to be about them.
see also:
"The Hiberi"
http://britam.org/hiberi.html
"Various Traditions"
http://britam.org/traditions.html
They are also the people I went to school with and grew up with
but never thought I was related to nor would I have wanted to be
though looking back I have no complaints.
[This just shows that a person can be closer to the "crowd" he
finds himself with than he might think or even wish for, a point Brit-Am has
mentioned in the past.]
On the other hand,
The NW Irish are apparently the original Milesians
of Tea Tephi connection which we have gone out of our way in the
past to discount.
The irony of it all.
Anyway, not to worry. It is not all Irishmen.
Members of the "clan" are also found outside
of Ireland as the following notes show:
http://members.aol.com/lochlan/dna.htm
<<Although DNA research has found that the Connachta, Cenel Conaill and Cenel Eoghain tribes are indeed linked as the pedigrees state (if not exactly in the way the pedigrees link them), there are further unexplained mysteries to the Ui Neill story. In addition to the above clans in the NW of Ireland, a large number of Scottish clans also match the Ui Neill modal, including a number of obviously non-Celtic surnames such as Wilson or Robertson. The Ui Neill modal is also found in families from England, such as Blanchard, Clarkson, Moore, Knowles, Drake, Heathering. It has become perfectly obvious that although these families share a common ancestor with the Ui Neill of Ireland, few if any of them are actually descended from the Ui Neill of Ireland. For the Scottish surnames matching the modal, FTDNA places the total percentage at about 6% of the Scottish samples.>>
<<In other words the Ui Neill in Ireland are simply a sub-set of a larger tribal grouping, some of whom can be found in various locations in Scotland and England. The implications of this are still unknown at the present. No one has yet ventured to assign a name to that larger tribal grouping. If O Rahilly is correct their origins could go back to Gaul or elsewhere in continental Europe, perhaps even Spain.>>
Meanwhile other members of the "Clan" -
variously referred to as the Northwest Irish Modal (M5UKQ),
hg R1b1c7, and U Neil -have turned up elsewhere:
Wales
Williams Wales
russell-davis Wales
France
Marian, James, about 1730, in France
Fournier Marans, Charante-Martin, France
Thevenin France
Le Compte (Rouen), France
Hebert Normandy, France
Cloutier
Bodrie
Bertrand
Fortineux
Otterberg, Germany, France
Schneider, Montbronn, France
Denmark
Myrup
Jacobson
Sweden
Frykl Sweden
NILLSON Sweden
Iceland
MYRES Iceland
Germany
Brune Germany
Baker Bingen-on the Rhine, Germany
Lominac Lauterecken, Germany
Willauer Germany
Diehl Germany
Steiner Oberschlesion, Germany
Jaeckel Hesse-Darmstadt/Hessen-Darmstadt, Germany
Hagan Germany
Kohl Darmstadt, Hessen
Stoehr Roschbach, Palatinate/Pfalz, Germany
Holland
Van Tienhoven Breuckelen-Province of Utrecht, Holland
3. Brit-Am seeks the following addresees:
Looking for the addresses of,
HERNANDEZ, Shelley
Mangini, Stan
Noonan, Jeffrey P.
STEWART, Fred E.
Tarras-Wahlberg, Nils (Goteborg, Sweden)
4. Irish Milesian (?) Tradition
The last and most important group of immigrants were the Milesians who are described as descended from Neale. The name "Neale" is sometimes understood to be a form of Beale or Bel and Britain was known as "The Honey Isle of Bel". Bel was a Mesopotamian, Syrian, and Northern Israelite form of "baal". "Baal" means "lord" or "master" and in some cases the term was applied also to the God of Israel until being abandoned in order to avoid confusion with pagan usage. Neale went to Egypt and settled in a place called Capacyront. The name Capacyront is said to be derived from the Hebrew "Pi-hahiroth" (Exodus 14;2) which was the place the children of Israel camped by just before the parting of the Red Sea. Even though Neal is a Scythian and described as descended from Japhet he identifies with the Israelites, helps them and is given an opportunity to participate in their inheritance. He declines but Israelites are left with him and somehow or other he in effect becomes part of the Israelite forces though he settles elsewhere.
The sons of Neal are Essru and Sru who both have names which may be forms of Israel. Sru is rendered "Isru" in some versions. The name Israel in Hebew is "Yisra-el" and the "-el" is theophonic and as such could be inferred and therefore dropped. Examples for such changes are not lacking. The "y" sound in "Yisra" could be also deleted. We thus have "Isra= Isru"..
Ptolemy named an area in Egypt west of the Nile "Scithiaca Regio" (i.e. Kingdom of Scyths), Herodotus recalls how the Scyths conquered all of the Middle East, attacked the Philistine coast and reached the borders of Egypt where they were persuaded to turn back. There may however have occurred an event by which a group of Scythians passed into Egypt either as mercenaries or as freebooting conquerors or what not and this may be one source of the Irish tradition that their ancestor the Scythian had been in Egypt.
From Egypt it is told that the people moved to Spain and from there to Ireland. Regarding Spain the Annals agree with what has been deduced from archaeological indications and from hints in Classical writings, i.e. that at first the Israelite exiles were spread over all of Spain being later pushed into the northwest whence they passed into Ireland, Britain, and the north. The name "Gallo" (father of the Milesian invaders of Ireland whose sons are Don, Heber, Heremon, Herenan) represents the Galli or Gaels as part of the Northern Celts were referred to.
5. Proverbs 8:6-11
[Proverbs 8:6] HEAR; FOR I WILL SPEAK OF EXCELLENT THINGS; AND THE OPENING OF MY LIPS SHALL BE RIGHT THINGS.
[Proverbs 8:7] FOR MY MOUTH SHALL SPEAK TRUTH; AND WICKEDNESS IS AN ABOMINATION TO MY LIPS.
Tell the truth or at least acknowledge it to yourself and you will grow wise, secret matters will
be revealed to you and you will gain new understanding.
[Proverbs 8:8] ALL THE WORDS OF MY MOUTH ARE IN RIGHTEOUSNESS; THERE IS NOTHING FROWARD OR PERVERSE IN THEM.
Do not trick or deceive others and you shall not be deceived by your own mind.
[Proverbs 8:9] THEY ARE ALL PLAIN TO HIM THAT UNDERSTANDETH, AND RIGHT TO THEM THAT FIND KNOWLEDGE.
All these words of Proverbs are also worth contemplating even without any Commentary, just read them through a few times until the meaning seeps in.
[Proverbs 8:10] RECEIVE MY INSTRUCTION, AND NOT SILVER; AND KNOWLEDGE RATHER THAN CHOICE GOLD.
[Proverbs 8:11] FOR WISDOM IS BETTER THAN RUBIES; AND ALL THE THINGS THAT MAY BE DESIRED ARE NOT TO BE COMPARED TO IT.
These are the words of Wisdom speaking to us, exhorting us to listen to the advice given us.
We should take time out every day to examine what we did, what befall us, from the time we got up
in the morning, even what we did upon awakening and what our attitude was.
We should think what we did or did not do, what was right and what wrong,
what should we have done more of and what less, what helped us and what harmed,
what helped others, etc.
We should also thing back upon any word of wisdom or advice we heard or any deed
of others that we saw or any experience worth remembering and learning from.
This advice may revolutionize your life or it may not but even
if it results in only a small improvement it is worth it.
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