Note "Brit-Am Now"-102 should
have been titled "Brit-Am Now"-103
Contents:
1. Joshua Fox: Conversion?
2. Betty Rhodes: non-attendance of
Israelis?
3. Jan Gordon: Question about Status
of non-Israelite "Strangers".
4. Yair Davidiy: NEED FOR "BRIT-AM"
INTERNATIONAL POLICIES?
5. BRIT-AM WORLD BRANCHES
1. Joshua Fox: Conversion?
Subject: Re: "Brit-Am Now"-102: CONFERENCE
REPORT
Yair,
It's interesting to see that the organization
is live and attracting
interest. I see that there are different
approaches to the question of
halacha among Gentiles of "Israelite
ancestry," although it is interesting
that no mention is made of conversion,,
for that fraction that may
sincerely wish to return to the Jewish
people and leave aside other
religious beliefs. I would think that
this is a natural step for some
Gentiles who discover a Jewish background,
and for Jews who wish to welcome
them.
Thanks for your response. I realize
that you may be too busy to reply to
each email -- is there perhaps an online
discussion group where such
questions can be raised.
Yours,
Joshua Fox
Answer: Brit-Am deals with revealing
the truth of Israelite Identity. We do
not encourage people to convert to
Judaism.
[On a private level I would probably
not encourage it, in most cases, but
neither do I have proprietary rights
over it. Some people must find their
own path].
We have Christians and Jews in our
organization and our policy is not to
discuss religion. Many of the Christians
do express their increased awareness
of Israelite Identity by adopting
Biblical or Jewish customs but we neither
encourage
nor discourage this phenomenon.
Perhaps there should eventually be
a forum where supporters of Brit-Am can
discuss these matters but I feel that
the time is not yet ripe.
2. Betty Rhodes: non-attendance of Israelis?
Subject: conference
Yair,
Thanks for sending the report on the
conference. Why
didn't the group from Israel attend
- I thought they
were the ones who wanted such a meeting.
Do you know
what happened that they didn't attend
- I really would
like to know.
Betty
Answer: My report gave the wrong
impression on this point. The Jerusalem
executive of Brit-Am
did attend along with other
Jerusalem supporters. There were three people
(I was referring to)
who intended to attend and did not,
each one for unavoidable personal
reasons. It was one of those things.
The three people in question have attended
most of our meetings in the past
and I also value their
input very much. Without the people
in question it was difficult to turn
the discussion to operational matters.
This may have been just as well. As
it was, the Conference became a
face-to-face encounter between a large
number
of Brit-Am supporters and ourselves.
Opinions were aired and wishes
expressed with almost complete audience
participation. People became
somewhat better acquainted with us
and we with them. The experience was
very valuable. We now are able to take
to heart more easily the wishes of
our members and the responsibilities
we have towards them, and they to us.
3. Jan Gordon: Question about Status of non-Israelite "Strangers".
On 27 Sep 02, at 10:36, Yair Davidiy
wrote:
<<(1) Suggestions and Viewpoints:
a. Brit-Am has stated that non-Jewish
Gentiles of Israelite descent
do not have to keep the Mosaic Law
at present though in the future
they will do so. There were those present
who feel quite strongly that this
is mistaken and that all Israelites
should endeavor to keep the Law.
[How this "Law" is to be defined is
another matter]. We left the
matter open to further discussion.
Yair >>
I would be interested in your posting
the feedback on the above
subject.
Question: Was only the tribe of Judah
{the Jews} present at the
formal giving of the law/instructions
at Mt Sinai?
It is not a Jewish law; it is our Father's
instructions on how He
wants to be approached and worshiped
and how we are to live
peacefully with one another here below.
The whole nation of Israel
{all 13 tribes, with the dual tribes
of Ephraim and Manasseh} were
present and the whole house of Israel
was given the commission to
be an example nation to the rest of
the pagan world so that all
nations would seek after the God of
Israel and walk in His Ways.
Our Father does not have two religions,
let alone 6000 or so that
have developed through the efforts
of mankind creating their own
religions.
Good study scriptures on this subject
can be found when
searching in a Bible software program
for the word "stranger" in
Torah. You will see the "stranger"
has always been included in our
Father's instructions and the walk
of the stranger is to be the same
as the walk He gave to Israel. In fact,
the stranger becomes as
"one born in the land" when they take
hold of the covenant and
begin honoring our Father's holy days
and instructions.
A few examples:
Ex. 12:48 as one born in the land
Num. 15:30 same punishment
Deut. chapter 28 gives the blessings
for obedience and the
curses of disobedience. Do not all
people deserve to be taught
these instructions of our Father? why
should the blessings of
obedience be given to just one group
of people? our Father is not a
respector of persons and wants all
nations to be obedient and be
blessed.
Isa. 56:1-8 shows how our Father instructs
about taking hold of the
covenant... one cannot "take hold of
the covenant" without
obedience to Torah.
Personally, I believe our Father has
only one religion...... His Way
as taught in Torah to all peoples.
Shalom
Jan Gordon
Silver Springs, FL
Answer: Another point raised by the
Conference was the status of
non-Israelites. We emphasized the universality
of the
Biblical message, the factual dispersion
of Israelites and Jews all over
the world, and the fact that a non-Israelite
who identifies with us becomes
part of the Tribe he dwells amongst:
[Ezekiel 47:22] AND IT SHALL COME TO
PASS, THAT YE SHALL DIVIDE IT BY LOT
FOR AN INHERITANCE UNTO YOU,
AND TO THE STRANGERS THAT SOJOURN AMONG YOU,
WHICH SHALL BEGET CHILDREN AMONG YOU:
AND THEY SHALL BE UNTO YOU AS BORN IN
THE COUNTRY AMONG THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL;
THEY SHALL HAVE INHERITANCE WITH
YOU AMONG THE TRIBES OF ISRAEL.
Together with these points we have
to insist that both the Biblical Message
and related studies point to specific
areas
as being those of definite Lost
Tribes of Israel settlement and that
according to the Bible God has chosen
all the Israelite
people for His own purpose. Within
the People of Israel, each section
(Judah and Israel) has its own unique
task and each tribe
its own special purpose and duty.
In the Bible the word translated as
"stranger" is "Ger" meaning more
correctly "sojourner".
There were different categories of
"sojourner".
The "stranger" only becomes an Israelite
when he wishes to do so and is
accepted by
the community. In such a case he becomes
a complete Israelite and we are
commanded to treat him as such.
Non-Israelite "strangers" who dwell
amongst us (and do not change their
status) have rights and obligations
without becoming Israelites,
e.g. [Deuteronomy 14:21] YE SHALL NOT
EAT OF ANYTHING THAT DIETH OF ITSELF:
THOU SHALT GIVE IT UNTO THE STRANGER
THAT IS IN THY GATES, THAT HE MAY
EAT IT; OR THOU MAYEST SELL IT UNTO
AN ALIEN: FOR THOU ART AN HOLY PEOPLE
UNTO THE LORD THY GOD. THOU SHALT NOT
SEETHE A KID IN HIS MOTHER'S MILK.
We see from the above verse that
a "stranger" can eat the meat of an
animal that has not been ritually slaughtered
but an Israelite under the
Law cannot. God chose
the Israelite people for HIS own reasons. This is
reality . The philosophical justifications
may be found elsewhere.
4. Yair Davidiy: NEED FOR "BRIT-AM"
INTERNATIONAL POLICIES?
In light of the current situation and
the oil needs and
geopolitical strategies of the
USA and Britain:
We wrote in "Ephraim":
Zechariah (10;10) foresaw that the
tribe of Ephraim and other Israelite
groups are also destined to possess
"The land of Gilead and Lebanon"
meaning the areas of modern Syria and
Lebanon. The land of Gilead had a
southern and a northern section, perhaps
Benjamin receives one, Ephraim the
other or both settle the whole together
or separate stages of future
re-settlement are spoken of: The Prophet
Ezekiel (chapter 48) describes the
Land of Greater Israel (from the Nile
to the Euphrates and perhaps beyond)
being divided amongst all of the Tribes
of Israel.
[Zechariah 10:7] AND THEY OF EPHRAIM
SHALL BE LIKE A MIGHTY MAN, AND THEIR
HEART SHALL REJOICE AS THROUGH WINE:
YEA, THEIR CHILDREN SHALL SEE IT, AND
BE GLAD; THEIR HEART SHALL REJOICE
IN THE LORD.
[Zechariah 10:8] I WILL HISS FOR THEM,
AND GATHER THEM; FOR I HAVE REDEEMED
THEM: AND THEY SHALL INCREASE AS THEY
HAVE INCREASED.
[Zechariah 10:9] AND I WILL SOW THEM
AMONG THE PEOPLE: AND THEY SHALL
REMEMBER ME IN FAR COUNTRIES; AND THEY
SHALL LIVE WITH THEIR CHILDREN, AND
TURN AGAIN.
[Zechariah 10:10] I WILL BRING THEM
AGAIN ALSO OUT OF THE LAND OF EGYPT,
AND GATHER THEM OUT OF ASSYRIA; AND
I WILL BRING THEM INTO THE LAND OF
GILEAD AND LEBANON; AND PLACE SHALL
NOT BE FOUND FOR
THEM.
Proposed:
Syria and Lebanon to be controlled
by the USA and Britain and to be settled
by Bible-believing
citizens from these and related nations.
Judah and Samaria and Jordan to be
given to Israel.
Most of the local "Arab" populations
of all the above areas to be
transported to North Africa or South
America.
Ecologically sound practices of re-afforestation,
water-and-soil
conservation (no more goats
to destroy the vegetation), and large-scale
desalinization of water
projects to be adopted.
Development of industry and large-scale
ecologically viable agricultural
projects put in process.
Encouragement of large, stable families,
and Biblically-based communities.
Saudi Arabia to be occupied by US forces.
Direct control to be exerted over all
surrounding nations from India to Egypt.
Direct or indirect control to
be exerted over all non-Israelite entities.
All nations containing a dominant proportion
of Israelites amongst them to
be united in a confederation
which in principle will always be headed
by either the UK or the USA and in
which Judah (i.e. the present State
of Israel)
will enjoy an independent status and
advisory capacity of its own.
5. BRIT-AM WORLD BRANCHES
Please check the list below: It may
need updating.
If there is no branch in your area
and you feel able and willing to form one
please contact us:
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