Brit-Am Now 221

Contains nos 221 (A)
and 221(B)
"Brit-Am Now"-221 (A)

Contents:
1. Zarathustra and Buddha
2. Questions from the Caribbean
3. The Two Josephite Nations! Was one Ten Times Greater

1. Zarathustra and Buddha
From: patrick1523@juno.com
Subject: Zarathustra and Buddha
Dear Yair,
I found your article on the Israelite origins of Zarathustra fascinating.
You also mentioned that Buddha might have been an Israelite. I have a
booklet called "Buddha the Israelite" by Isabel Hill Elder, and another
called "The Lost Tribes" by George Moore. Both of them support the
position that Buddha was an Israelite. I have also read that some
Buddhist festivals and laws are similar to Torah law on some points.
While this information is not necessarily a big part of Brit-Am's work, I
think it has a valuable role still. For example I think there is some
good in most religions, but the good in them can ultimately be traced
back to Judaism and does not originate in them. This is an important
point. Research on Zarathustra and Buddha could shed additional light on
the tribes while also providing fascinating information on the Israelite
origins of the good parts of what they taught. I would like to hear more
about Buddha's Israelite background, I think more research on this would
be excellent.
Shalom,
Patrick

2. Questions from the Caribbean
At 06:55 27/03/2003 -0800, you wrote:
>Blessings,
>
>My name is Johaida Luna and I have been following the teachings of [] as
>well as yours.
>However there are some things that are still not clear to me and I was
>hoping you can try and reason together with me on this issues. Now my
>objective is not to argue with you but just to make sure everything is
>clear enough.
>
>My first question is
>
>1. In chapter 48 and 49 of Genesis Jacob goes on and blesses his sons. Now
>my question is, Was that blessing overruled by YHWH when Israel disobeyed
>him and he cursed her?? Or does that blessing still stand??

>
>2. Am I to understand that although most people don't know about their
>Israelite descent, that they are still being blessed?? As America and
>Great Britain are??

>
>
>4. What about Deuteronomy 23, can you explain how these European countries
>have gone through all these things that YHWH himself said Israel would go
>through??
>
>Once again please don't think that I'm trying to raise an argument, I have
>been hearing two different sides of the story and although one reflects
>what I call reverse racism, it makes a lot of sense, and yours makes sense
>also but both cant be right cause one attacks the other.
>
>I was a Christian and now I'm beginning my life as a messianic, and it's
>not at all simple. I think you can relate to what I feel. I'm Caribbean
>and it's kind of tough to see that not many of us have found the way to
>biblical truth. Are they being witnessed as they should in those Islands
>or are some limiting themselves by witnessing to a specific area or
>people. I see that from both sides and it brakes my heart to see it. I
>love Israel and YHWH with all my heart and I know that my people will too.
>I don't know much yet but my goal is to reach those people who are not
>being reached by this truth.
>
>Blessings.

Answers:
1. The Blessings were unconditional
see Genesis 22:

[Genesis 22:16] AND SAID, BY MYSELF HAVE I SWORN, SAITH THE LORD, FOR
BECAUSE THOU HAST DONE THIS THING, AND HAST NOT WITHHELD THY SON, THINE
ONLY SON:

BY MYSELF HAVE I SWORN - by Myself God is eternal and so is the promise.
The promise was now made UNCONDITIONAL and IRREVOCABLE. It had to be
fulfilled as in part it has been.
cf. Numbers 23:19-20

Shalom, Brit-Am is not a religion. We cannot supply answers to questions of
a religious nature but we believe that all they who seek truth will find it.
[Psalms 31:5] INTO THINE HAND I COMMIT MY SPIRIT: THOU HAST REDEEMED ME, O
LORD GOD OF TRUTH.

2. Yes. America and Britain are peopled by descendants of the Lost Ten
Tribes and receive the blessings of Joseph even though most of them are
unaware of their origins.

3. You said:
>3. The bible clearly states that the lost 10-Tribes were scattered to all
>the four corners of the earth. Why does your page only stresses the
>European side of the lost tribe??

If you see our Literature you will notice that it was prophesied that Judah
would be scattered and the Lost Tribes exiled to specific areas.
e.g.
[Isaiah 11:12] AND HE SHALL SET UP AN ENSIGN FOR THE NATIONS, AND SHALL
ASSEMBLE THE OUTCASTS OF ISRAEL, AND GATHER TOGETHER THE DISPERSED OF JUDAH
FROM THE FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH.
Judah is dispersed while the Lost Tribes ("Israel") are outcast. This
explanation also accords with traditional Rabbinical understanding of the
passage.

>It is a known fact that many Israelite trails have been found in places
>like Japan, India, and many parts of Africa not just south Africa.

Other explanations are available for these phenomenon: e.g. Offshoots from
the Lost Tribes, influenced by contact with Jews or with the Lost Tribes,
descendants of scattered Jews, people who adopted the Jewish religion in
the distant past, descendants of non-Israelite 'Samaritans", or Nestorian
Judaizing Christians, etc.
At all events the Bible gives signs by which the Lost Ten Tribes may be
identified and it is these that guide us together with other criteria.

>4. You said:
>4. What about Deuteronomy 23, can you explain how these European countries
>have gone through all these things that YHWH himself said Israel would go
>through??

Deuteronomy 23 consists of commandments. Did you intend another chapter?
If you were referring to threatened punishments for not keeping the
commandments then our explanation is that the Lost ten Tribes had their
religious obligations under the Mosaic Code partially suspended for a
period so that they could fulfill their historical destiny. They were
therefore freed from the threatened punishments at that stage. Judah was
not freed and Judah did suffer accordingly for its sins. Judah in the
future will be compensated.
Concerning the Caribbean we understand that the Caribbean is populated by a
mixture of Africans, some native "Indians", mixed British and Irish, some
Portuguese, Spanish, and Dutch and some descendants of Jewish Marranos
from Spain And Portugal.
Former British colonies in the Caribbean have elected to remain attached to
Britain as "Dominions".
The Africans in the Caribbean are descended from mixed groups including
"Sabaeans" who it was predicted who be taken "across" (the sea?) in chains
by Israelites and in the end times acknowledge the God of Israel (Isaiah
45:14) and the Israelite nation, see "Joseph" chapter eight.
I personally do not know what all this exactly means but it does suggest an
ultimate identity of destiny.
Brit-Am is not a religion. We speak according to our understanding within
our own limitations.
We cannot supply answers to questions of a religious nature but we believe
that all they who seek truth will find it.
[Psalms 31:5] INTO THINE HAND I COMMIT MY SPIRIT: THOU HAST REDEEMED ME, O
LORD GOD OF TRUTH.

3. The Two Josephite Nations! Was one Ten Times Greater
From: surfer1 <surfer1@tpg.com.au>
Subject: FW: [Ex WCG] ~ The Two Josephite Nations! Was one Ten Times Greater
Than The Other? ~
Forwarded on for information.

Craig

-----Original Message-----

Even population wise, the true sons of Joseph, in the U.S.A., are not
anywhere near ten times more in number, than Britain has, in fact the
U.S.A has a vast number of gentiles living in Her.

Britain , is much more homogeneous, than the U.S.A, having more like 40
million or so, full blooded Josephites, whereas, the U.S.A. probably has,
probably the same amount of Josephites, with other Israelites, Dan
(Irish), Gad (Swedes), Rueben (French), Dutch (Zebulon), Judah, etc.(Amos
6:1) and many of Ephraim

The Israelite Population of the U.S.A. is probably 180 million.(These are Estimations)

It seems like Ephraim, being ten times, that of Manasseh, has more to do
with General Population, control and influence, than it had to do with
the general numbers of literal Josephites, since the literal numbers of
Josephites, are probably about the same in each country.

This is still amazing, since there are probably about 80 or 100 million
Josephites, that have practically run the rest of the world, and have
spread their vine, all across the world, as a blessing (Gen. 49).

The Descendents of Joseph have retained a unique abilty, that Joseph had,
they are very practical and industrious, they are great builders and
Ephraim (Britain) seems to have the greater leadership, and
administrative ability, for instance they ruled India, a nation of 300
million, with just 50,000 civil and military personel.

Whereas, the U.S.A., is a very reluctant leader always trying to make
friends, with everybody, instead of ruling, like Britain.

Many, can say that "Nation and Company of Nations, Seagates, hatred of
dictators, hundreds of Israelitish surnames, both intact, like
David,Daniels, Rueben, Moses Benjamin, Isaacson, Abrams Samuels, Levi,
Jacobs, Joseph, and corruptions of these names, like Robbins McDevitt,
McTavish, Davies, Davison, Davidson, Dawson, Dawes, Dowd, Dwight, Simms,
Jason, Manson, Simpson, Simmons Laver, Love, Lowell, Donlevy, Hudson,
Judson, Lewis, Love, Acuff, Cobb, Jacoby, and Jacks, Jackson are just
coincidental.

Also, crowning Their Monarchs "The King-Queen of Israel", in the very
ceremony.

Also, the Two Nations Have, on their national seal, a Pyramid (U.S.A.),
and the Sphinx of Egypt (Britain).

Also, defeating their enemies at every turn.

Also, worshipping the God of Israel.

Also, basing much of their constitution on the Hebrew scriptures.

Also, putting forth one of the most benevolent constitutions, that
mankind has ever come up with.

Also, the main backers and supporters of Israel (Judah).

Also, possessing the most prosperous areas of the world.

How many coincidences, do we need ? To Prove where Joseph is, and to
prove that one (Ephraim), had about ten times the influence of the latter
(Mannaseh), and even much of Mannaseh's (USA) legacy had come from
Ephraim (Britain)

"Brit-Am Now"-221 (B)
Contents
1. Correct Link to US State Flags (worth seeing)
2. Conspiracy Theories
3. Reconstructured head of Roman Mercenary from Gaul or Germany in Scotland
4. Brit-Am Message Can be Difficult to Accept
5. Steve Collins: Menasseh and Ephraim: Some Considerations
"The Two Josephite Nations--Was one ten times greater than the other."
6. The Name Houzet like Hosea!
7. Book of Simeon?

1. Correct Link to US State Flags (worth seeing)
At 11:02 30/03/2003 -0500, you wrote:
"Here is the page with the USA state flags:
<<http://britam.org/names.html>http://britam.org/names.html>http://britam.org/names.html>http://britam.org/names.html"

FYI, clicking the link results in "Page cannot be found".
Aram

Reply: Sorry. Please Try:
http://britam.org/names.html

2. Conspiracy Theories
From: EcoRebbe@aol.com
Subject: Re: "Brit-Am Now"-220

In a message dated 3/30/03 12:24:39 AM, britam@netvision.net.il writes:
<<
Conspiracy Theories
I know that some of our subscribers believe in conspiracy theories as do
some of my friends and personal acquaintances.
Conspiracy ideas are usually the fruit of sick minds and/or fictions
invented by sinister elements who themselves
are part of an unspoken "conspiracy" to work against the Jewish, American,
and British peoples.
I find it very disheartening when otherwise good, intelligent, sensitive
people (sometimes Jewish ones or even Brit-Am supporters)
suddenly reveal that they have been taken in by Conspiracy propaganda.
Conspiracy theories are in effect the outcome of those who seek the renewed
betrayal of Joseph and Judah. >>

AMEYN, AMEYN!

The EcoRebbe. Rabbi Gershon Caudill
ecokosher@aol.com

Midrash says: "And you find that Israel will not be redeemed until they
become one
unity, as it says, [Jeremiah 3:18] IN THOSE DAYS THE HOUSE OF JUDAH SHALL GO
UNTO THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL, AND THEY SHALL COME TOGETHER OUT OF THE LAND OF THE
NORTH TO THE LAND THAT I HAVE GIVEN FOR AN INHERITANCE UNTO YOUR FATHERS.
Only when they are one unity will they merit receiving the Divine Presence."
(Tanchuma, Nitzavim, 1;18)
.
3. Reconstructured head of Roman Mercenary from Gaul or Germany in Scotland:
Interesting
http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=371732003

4. Brit-Am Message Can be Difficult to Accept
Subject: Re: "Brit-Am Now"-221
In a message dated 3/31/2003 10:14:43 AM Eastern Standard Time, britam@netvision.net.il writes:

Deuteronomy 23 consists of commandments. Did you intend another chapter?
If you were referring to threatened punishments for not keeping the
commandments then our explanation is that the Lost ten Tribes had their
religious obligations under the Mosaic Code partially suspended for a
period so that they could fulfill their historical destiny. They were
therefore freed from the threatened punishments at that stage. Judah was
not freed and Judah did suffer accordingly for its sins. Judah in the
future will be compensated.

Yair
the above part of a response you supplied for another individual writing in to you is perhaps singularly the hardest part of the Brit-Am message for me to accept--not that G-d forbid I am challenging you.
Being brought up with all the notions of an obedient Judah obeying the Torah as a prerequisite for G-d's protection throughout the diaspora, was all very consistent with what I learned in the Bible about the same relationship between ancient Israel and G-d. As a Jew I am psychologically so "used" to the idea of a decimated history as a result of swaying form the path that it is hard for me to imagine part of a covenantal people whose obligations were temporarily suspended to fulfill theri historical destiny independent of their covenantal obligations. That is why in this sense it is easier to accept the notion of the Amerindians theories as prime components of the lost tribes, since they have indeed been decimated, and have had genocide practiced on them , not dissimilar to the Jews.
best regards
David M
New Jersey

5. Steve Collins: Menasseh and Ephraim: Some Considerations
"The Two Josephite Nations--Was one ten times greater than the other."
Shalom Yair,

I'd like to contribute some thoughts re: the question of "the Two Josephite
Nations--Was one ten times greater than the other." I think it is
important to differentiate the separate themes of Genesis 48's and
Deuteronomy 33's comments about the futures of Ephraim and Manasseh.
Genesis 48's statements about the futures of Ephraim and Manasseh appear
within the context of Jacob/Israel passing on the "birthright blessings" to
the two sons of Joseph. Deuteronomy 33, on the other hand, is a general
prophecy by Moses about the two tribes' futures, not a birthright
pronouncement. If both are examined within their context, it sheds much
light on this topic.

Genesis 48:8-22 contain the account of Jacob/Israel passing on the
birthright blessings (previously passed down through Abraham and Isaac) to
Ephraim and Manasseh, the two sons of Joseph. In verses 14-16, Jacob
simultaneously placed his hands on the heads of the two sons of Joseph and
simultaneously conferred the population aspect of the birthright upon both
of them equally. Notice verse 16 states: "...and let them grow into a
multitude in the midst of the earth." The blessing of large population
growth was conferred equally upon Ephraim and Manasseh at the same time.
The phrase "in the midst of the earth" would seem to indicate that they
would become large entities while living in the temperate zones of the
earth (the "middle" latitudes). However the fact that that both Ephraim and
Manasseh jointly and equally received this blessing of population growth
from Jacob at the same time indicates that both Ephraim and Manasseh would
become large tribes with roughly equal populations in the future. In my
opinion, this precludes the possibility that one would ever have ten times
the population of the other tribe. Speaking under divine inspiration,
Jacob's pronouncement indicates equivalence between the two tribes in the
blessing of population growth. This view is supported by biblical census
data. In Numbers 1, Ephraim's population is greater than Manasseh's, but
in Numbers 26, Manasseh's population is greater than Ephraim's. This
indicates the population balance between the two tribes could fluctuate,
but there is no support that Ephraim's population will be ten times that of
Manasseh's.

In Genesis 48:17-20, the blessings conferred on Ephraim and Manasseh become
divergent, but this divergence occurs after both have equally shared in the
population blessing by Jacob. The divergent blessing indicates Manasseh
shall be "a people" who will become "great," but Ephraim will become a
"multitude [fullness] of nations" which will be "greater," and "Ephraim was
set before Manasseh." The record of history is clear that the British
Empire was composed of a "multitude of nations" (not all of them
Israelite!); whereas, the United States has remained a single great nation
which did not subdivide into separate nations. The British Empire was also
"great" for a long time "before" the USA became great after World War II.
These historical facts indicate that the British are Ephraim and the
Americans are Manasseh as the British Empire was great "before" the
Americans were "great," and the British Empire directly ruled over a
"greater" region and population of the earth than did Manasseh. Yair
Davidy mentioned in an earlier Britam posting that one school of rabbinic
thought felt that the blessing of Ephraim "before" Manasseh meant that
Ephraim's blessing would be given first and Manasseh's would be given
later. I agree with that viewpoint because that is what has actually
happened in history.

Now let's look at Deuteronomy 33 in light of the parameters of the
birthright blessings divinely "fixed" in Genesis 48. God's Word will not
contradict itself, so the intent of Moses' prophecy in Deuteronomy 33 must
be harmonious with the birthright blessing conveyed upon Ephraim and
Manasseh in Genesis 48. Deuteronomy 33 is a prophetic blessing upon all the
tribes of Israel, but it is in no way presented as a reversal of the
birthright blessings already divinely fixed in Genesis 48. Verses 13-17
apply to Ephraim and Manasseh. Like the beginning of Genesis 48's
birthright blessing, this prophecy begins by making no distinction between
Ephraim and Manasseh. From verse 13 until the last sentence of verse 17,
Moses only uses the term "Joseph" to describe the two tribes of Ephraim and
Manasseh. Verses 13-16 show Moses prophesying that the blessings of the
Abrahamic Covenant will be inherited jointly by Ephraim and Manasseh with
no distinction between the two tribes. Even the first 2/3rds of Verse 17
reference "Joseph" in its statements, by referring to Joseph via the
pronouns "His glory...," "his horns..." and "he shall push..." Verse 17
prophesies that Joseph (both Ephraim and Manasseh) will "push the people
together to the ends of the earth." Then in the last phrase of this
prophecy, Moses finally indicates one difference between Ephraim and
Manasseh. Right after saying "Joseph will push the people together to the
ends of the earth," Moses concludes "...and they are the ten thousands of
Ephraim and the thousands of Manasseh." It is my view that Moses was
prophesying that Ephraim will "push together tens of thousands of people to
the ends of the earth," and that in contrast, Manasseh will "push together
thousands of people to the ends of the earth."

While I realize some feel this language applies to the respective
populations of Ephraim and Manasseh, there are two major arguments against
such a view. The first is that such a view is inconsistent with the
language of Genesis 48 where the promise of population growth was given
equally to both tribes in the same exact langauge. Both were to grow into
"a multitude," neither one was promised a tenfold share of population
growth over the other tribe. Genesis 48's language indicates future
equivalence between the two tribes in population matters. The second
reason is that at no time in history has Ephraim enjoyed a tenfold
dominance in population numbers over Manasseh. If that were to be the
case, Manasseh (a birthright tribe) would end up being far smaller than
non-birthright tribes such as Reuben and Gad who were also prophesied to
have large populations (Deut. 33:6 and 20). Manasseh and Ephraim jointly
inherited the birthright blessings and the other tribes of Israel did not
inherit them in Genesis 48. Therefore, Manasseh and Ephraim have to be the
two largest tribes of Israel on the earth. If Manasseh was only 1/10th as
large as Ephraim, Manasseh would be a minor tribe on the earth and the
birthright blessing would have been nullified for Manasseh. Moses was not
nullifying the divine birthright blessing of Genesis 48 in his prophecy of
Deut. 33. It is my view that Moses was revealing how Ephraim was to become
"greater" than Manasseh as described in the Genesis 48 prophecy of Jacob.
Ephraim was to become "greater" because it would dominate or directly
rule ten times the number of gentiles that would be dominated or directly
ruled by Manasseh. Supporting this viewpoint is the record of history. The
British Empire did rule over many times the numbers of people (and many
times the area) that were governed by America. I would submit that since
that is what actually happened in the record of history, that is what was
meant by the prophecy in Deuteronomy 33:17. If it was a population about
the respective populations of Ephraim and Manasseh, then we must conclude
not only that Moses nullified the word of God in the birthright blessing of
Jacob in Genesis 48 (something he had no power to do), but that prophecy
has failed to come to pass because Ephraim has never had a tenfold larger
population than Manasseh.

There are some other persuasive reasons, in my view, why the USA is mostly
Manasseh and why the British are mostly Ephraim. When Joseph put his right
hand on Ephraim's head in Genesis 48, Ephraim inherited the right to be the
"12th tribe" as the foremost birthright son of Joseph. However, Jacob made
it clear that Manasseh would be reckoned a "13th tribe" in Israel along
with Reuben, Simeon, and all the other tribes (verse 5). Manasseh became
the 13th tribe. When the USA was founded, it began with 13 colonies, and 13
stars and stripes on the flag. The number 13 is all over the Great Seal of
the USA even today (13 arrows, 13 letters in "E Pluribus Unum," etc.). God
has stamped the number "13" on the USA, and Manasseh was the 13th tribe of
Israel.

Manasseh also received by far the largest territory in the ancient Promised
Land and its territory was split down the middle into western and eastern
halves by the Jordan River flowing from north to south. The modern USA is
split down the middle into eastern and western halves by the Mississippi
River flowing from north to south. Modern America mimics the geography of
ancient Manasseh's territory. The ancient inheritance of Ephraim was much
smaller than Manasseh's and more cramped. The homeland of the British
Isles is also much smaller than that of the USA. The ancient Ephraimites
exported much of their growing population to the colonies of the
Israelite/Phoenician Empire, and the British did the same thing, exporting
much of their growing population to colonies overseas. The British
homeland and empire have mimicked the role of Ephraim in ancient Israel.

Finally, we should recognize that Genesis 49's prophecy about each of the
tribes of Israel in the latter days makes no distinction between Ephraim
and Manasseh. It simply refers to them jointly as "Joseph" in verses
22-26. This indicates the fates of both tribes will be so intertwined in
the latter days that Jacob saw no need to differentiate between the two re:
their dispensations in the end-time. Interestingly, in the current war vs.
Iraq, it is the USA and the UK which are jointly fighting and leading this
war. Again prophecy is being fulfilled. The tribes of Ephraim and
Manasseh are close allies in this war as the house of Joseph has now
invaded the ancient territory of Babylon and Chaldea in a war against evil
rulers, no matter what the rest of the world thinks! Whichever side
Britam readers are in the "Which is Ephraim and Which is Manasseh" debate,
we can be united in praying for the victory of the House of Joseph in this
war!

Steve Collins

6. The Name Houzet like Hosea!
From: GL Houzet
Subject: Fw: "Brit-Am Now"-221; What about Houzet like Hosea!

Shalom all,

What about Houzet, akin to Hosea, the Biblical Prophet? (Our surname is
pronounced "Hoozay"); with reference to your paragraph 3 below.

My great-grandfather, Jean-Baptiste Houzet, immigrated to this barren strip
of southern Africa as a British Foreign Legion soldier after the Crimean War
in January,1857. His place of birth is recorded in the British Public
Records Office as "Blandain, Tournai, Belgium".

Blessings, In Yisrael,
Merlin Houzet
PO Box 2542
Cape Town
South Africa

7. Book of Simeon?
From: Craig & Karen Blackwood
Subject: Cappadocians

Shalom Yair

This is taken from the book of Simeon

II.-The Testament of Simeon Concerning Envy.

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II.-The Testament of Simeon Concerning Envy.

6. Behold, I have foretold you all things, that I may be clear from the sin of your souls. Now, if ye remove from you your envy, and all your stiffneckedness, as a rose shall my bones flourish in Israel, and as a lily my flesh in Jacob, and my odour shall be as the odour of Libanus; and as cedars shall holy ones be multiplied from me for ever, and their branches shall stretch afar off. Then shall perish the seed of Canaan, and a remnant shall not be to Amalek, and all the Cappadocians<http://www.ccel.org/fathers2/ANF-08/footnote/fn3.htm#P365_51399>6 shall perish, and all the Hittites<http://www.ccel.org/fathers2/ANF-08/footnote/fn3.htm#P366_51545>7 shall be utterly destroyed. Then shall fail the land of Ham, and every people shall perish. Then shall all the earth rest from trouble, and all the world under heaven from war. Then shall Shem be glorified, because the Lord God, the Mighty One of Israel, shall appear upon earth as man,<http://www.ccel.org/fathers2/ANF-08/footnote/fn3.htm#P367_51899>8 and saved by Him Adam.<http://www.ccel.org/fathers2/ANF-08/footnote/fn3.htm#P368_52026>9 Then shall all the spirits of deceit be given to be trampled under foot, and men shall rule over the wicked spirits. Then will I arise in joy, and will bless the Most High because of His marvellous works, because God hath taken a body and eaten with men and saved men.

Note By Yair: The above extract is apparently taken from The Testament of the Twelve Patriarchs. This was an early Jewish work from pre-Christian times that later Christian editors adapted. I looked at it some time ago. It has some potential value but is problematic.
The Cappadocians were a people who lived in what is now northeast Turkey. The Septuagint (Greek translation of the Bible) identified them with the Philistines.