"Brit-Am Now"- 379

March 24, 2004
Contents:
1. References to "The Tribes" chapter one
2. Carmelita Lee: The Irish Dispersion
3. Judah, Joseph, the other Tribes, and "Taking Sides"
4. Jack  Hertzog: Scythians
5. Questions on the Stranger and Ishmael

1. References to "The Tribes" chapter one
Chapter one of "The Tribes" is being sent out for your perusal.
The references have been included. I  would welcome any remarks or criticisms.
The reference for no. 10 should be
10. Sulimerski, T. "Scythian Antiquities in Western Asia. The Appearance of
the Assyrians", in "Artibus Asiae vol. xvii, Ascona, vol. 17,
Switzerland  1954, p.282 ff, Yamauchi p.95.
I am searching for Yamauchi and Junge. The sources are in my  notes
and the matter should  be corrected shortly. If not, I will delete the
references.
if I remember correctly Yamauchi used secondary sources whereas Sulimerski
(whom we have quoted correctly) used
primary ones and therefore is the more important.
Even without this being seen to
the case to my mind is quite clear. If anyone thinks differently please
tell us and tell us why.\

2. Carmelita Lee: The Irish Dispersion
Dear Yair,
Just another word about Ireland . . . my husband's mom's family name
(Dowdall) from around the Cork, the southern part of the island -- and the
scuttlebutt around the name (remember I live here in Dublin and ask a lot of
questions) is that Dowdalls had come from the Spanish Inquisition and the
name had previously been David'el, and had been pronounced Daoudel . . .
there are other names from the Spanish, de Valera being one very well known
one.  Cowen and Cowan, Tobin.

Another thing sort of famous about the Irish is their claim to basically
repopulating the world -- something like one-fifth of the names in America
(Australia, New Zealand, etc., etc.) are Irish, is the claim from here --
and they were always fierce fighters -- if you've seen the movie Gods and
Generals (about the Civil War in the USA) there's a bitter scene depicting
the true story of the Federal Irish Unit and the Confederate Irish Unit
firing on each other and literally decimating each other -- (of course, I'm
not speaking about the current generation of namby pamby fence sitters who
are kissing up to the EU and living off their neutrality.)

My thought goes back to Father Avraham, when he was promised that he would
be the father of nations, and that G-d would make his offspring like the
dust of the earth . . .

Anyway, just a few ramblings.

  Carmelita Lee

3. Judah, Joseph, the other Tribes, and "Taking Sides"

Lynne McGuire  wrote:
re "Brit-Am Now"-376 378
>The part about The British history in Ireland was not included and is the
>very reason there wasn't as much support for the British in the second world
>war. Was there a reason for not including it?

You wrote explaining the Irish Free State neutrality in WW2 due
a wish to see the power of Britain diminished rather than
pro-German  inclinations.
The Irish were anti-British due to past history. In the Irish famine many
died of starvation
at least partially due to British policies and so too amongst the South
African Boers
there  was an incident in which ca 26,000 women and children died from
disease after being placed in camps by the
British and the British were blamed for it. Letters were sent to us on
these matters but we refrained from reposting them since
we do not want to appear to take sides or to arouse disputes amongst our
Hebrew-descended subscribers.

The bottom line from our point of view is that in WW2 Britain saved ca
120,000 or more Jewish refugees and
was responsible for defeating the Nazis and saving the world. Ireland saved
between 7 (sic) to ca 150 Jews
(depending on which source you use) and no more than that
and for whatever reasons did not fight. This is not to deny the fact that
Numerous people of Irish descent served
extremely well in the Allied forces. Also Jews and Irish people often
identify with each other
and even look alike to a degree.

We are currently going through the Book of Judges, followed by Samuel, and
then Kings and Chronicles.
We will come across several cases of fratricidal strive amongst the Tribes
of Israel.

The Brit-Am message is addressed to all Israelite Tribes and to Captive Jews.
We want to awaken Hebrew consciousness of ancestry in all peoples of
Israelite descent.
Even so we place an emphasis on the Jews (Judah) and on the Tribes of Joseph
whom we identify with the USA, the UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand,
South Africa.
Judah and Joseph are the two leading elements in Israel
and in my view it is an Israelite obligation to follow after either one or
the other
while obviating fiction between the two
until the End Times when both will unite.
For all the negative things one can no doubt with justice say about Judah
and Joseph
they are in their own way fulfilling their Divine mission in this world for
the good of all Israel
and all the world and should be assisted in doing so and identified with.
God bless you and yours
Yair Davidiy
Brit-Am
Israel

4. Jack  Hertzog: Scythians
From: "J.H." <jaxico99@y>

The Name "Scots" is a development of Isaac and Scythian.

In the USA many of our prominent men have had Scots -Irish ancestry.

I wonder if the names "McMann", and McManus and Mnanson and Mannson,
Manson, could be devolvements of Manasseh?

Best Regards

=====
Jack and Wanda Hertzog
803 S.Pequeno Camino Dr.
Roswell, N.M. 88203

5. Questions on the Stranger and Ishmael
Questions
Angela Bailey,  wrote:
>Sir Davidiy,
>I have 2 more ?'s.  I know you don't want to get into issues not
>concerning the work you are doing.
>1. What say you about gentile's who have rec'vd the Lord God Almighty,
>being  incorporated into one of the 12 Tribes Of Israel spiritually?  Do
>you know of any scripture anywhere that would back this up?

>2. And , Do you believe that the Muslam nation comes from Ishmael, who was
>circumsized along with Abraham?
  May Peace and Blessing be to you from the God of All creation
                                                                    Angela
Bailey

Answers:
(1). regarding the stranger who dwells amongst us and identifies with us:
[Ezekiel 47:22] AND IT SHALL COME TO PASS, THAT YE SHALL DIVIDE IT BY LOT
FOR AN INHERITANCE  UNTO YOU, AND TO THE STRANGERS THAT SOJOURN AMONG YOU,
WHICH SHALL BEGET CHILDREN AMONG YOU: AND THEY SHALL BE UNTO YOU AS BORN IN
THE COUNTRY AMONG THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL; THEY SHALL HAVE INHERITANCE WITH
YOU AMONG THE TRIBES OF ISRAEL.
Non-Israelites who have settled amongst us, identified with us and shared
our trials and tribulations alongside us will be considered as the same as
us. They will be part of whatsoever Tribe of Israel they have dwelt
amongst.

[Ezekiel 47:23] AND IT SHALL COME TO PASS, THAT IN WHAT TRIBE THE STRANGER
SOJOURNETH, THERE  SHALL YE GIVE HIM HIS INHERITANCE, SAITH THE LORD
GOD.

(2). Regarding the Arab nation:
All questions concerning the identity of non-Israelite nations should be
addressed to Craig White (surfer1@tpg.com.au) who has written
a very useful book on the subject. Even when we disagree with him his
opinion is worth considering.
The Arab nation is divided into two sections one identified with Ishmael
the other with Yoktan (Yemen) but culturally Ishmael predominates
and the name Ishmael is often applied as a general term for all the
Muslim-Arab world
though physically the descendants of Ishmael are probably only a minority.



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