Wed, 15 Dec 2004
"Brit-Am Now"-492
Contents:
1. Clarification over Question
2. Question on Northern Germany
3. Brit-Am Phone Numbers in Israel
4. Missed Posts
5. Steve Coneglan: Geometrical Points about the Union Jack
6. Question from Batya Wootten: Israelite Identity, Rape, and
half-Castes
7. The name "America" found in the Biblical Book of Hosea?
1. Clarification over Question
From: networkcenter@houseofephraim.com
Subject: Re: Why is Brit-Am Not Doing More?
Yair,
The subject title of a recent question I submitted
to you was
titled
"Enabling the return of Ephraim". However when it came out on your
post
it was titled "Why is Brit-am not doing more?".
The question I asked was in no way meant to imply that
Brit-am was
dragging it's feet in the area of enabling Ephraims return. I simply
wanted to know if you or Rav Feld were currently working in this area?
I have & do support the work you are doing, in more
ways than one,
and did not intend the question to come off confrontational at all.
You did however answer the question thoroughly and I hope
that the
necessary funding will come that is needed to publicize Ephraims
existence, especially here in Israel.
Shalom, & Chag Sameach.
IbD
2. Question on Northern Germany
>Subject: about NW Germany [schleswig Holstein,Niedersachsen & parts
of
> Mecklenburg] ,Latvia and Lithuania
>
>
>Mr Davidi i've got a question for you is it true that most of the
people
>in the places mentioned above are israelites?i am not referring to the
>inhabitants whose origin is from prussia and whom parents immigrated
to NW
>Germany after WW2 i'm referring to the locals who'd lived there until
WW2
>broke out.do they somehow considered israelites?cos when i think about
it
>i cant figure out why dont YOU consider them israelites.i mean most of
the
>people of teutonic origin live there [and youve said that teutonic
were
>isralites],most of the nazi intrigue was devised in southern germany
where
>people were not israelites so you cant blame northern germans for the
>holocaust.most of the residents are similar to scandinavians and the
>languages are akin to each other.nor you cant distinguish between NW
>germans and dutch who you claim to be israelites.
>another question:what are the latvians and lithuanians? they are
different
>from the other european nations by origin,do they have israelite
blood?if
>not with whom do you identify them?
We decided who were Israelites according to criteria that proved
themselves.
Our criteria do not apply to individuals but rather to very large
communities comprising whole nations or
substantial portions of nations. In this field as elsewhere we have to
use
"cut-off" points that may seem
arbitrary but are needed. This also reflects reality.
A "good" man on the wrong side can be a bad enemy.
A lot of individuals feel they are Israelites even though they emerge
from
groups that we do not identify as Hebrew.
They find their place in Brit-Am. Brit-Am is open and Brit-Am looks for
the
truth and the will to identify.
God bless you
Yair Davidiy
3. Brit-Am Phone Numbers in Israel
972-(0)546-423196 (portable)
972-(0)2-5664693
4. Missed Posts
Nearly all letters are read and more often than not answered.
It sometimes happens that some letters get accidentally deleted
or unduly deferred for all kinds of reasons.
Sometimes letters that we really need and wish to answer are the very
ones that
disappear.
Any query about an order, any query about Brit-Am or Brit-Am subject
matters
is important to us. If you sent something that was not answered and it
is
important
please re-send it. If , after that, an answer is not received then
there
may be a very exceptional reason
so please do not be offended. The last thing in the world we need or
want
to do is to needlessly offend others.
5. Steve Coneglan: Geometrical Points about the Union Jack
Dear Yair,
Very interesting discussion on the semantic and symbolic fields of the
Union Jack. I am one of the many who believe that the reference to
'Union
of Jacob / Israel' inherent in the flag is intentional.
I would like to add to the discussion by bringing in a few points
probably
not previously introduced.
Point 1 concerns the attributed origin of the name. If the primary
Union
relates to that of England and Scotland under King James, we find an
intriguing parallel when we allow that Scotland is descended from the
tribe
of Gad. At Genesis 49:19, under the blessing given to Gad by his father
Jacob, the root of the name Jacob is given, aqeb. Speculative? Perhaps.
The second point relating to the Union Jack comes out of geometry, of
all
places. Scripture tells us that the oracle in King Solomon's temple, in
which was housed the ark of the covenant, was cubic in dimension (1
Kings
6:20). The cube can therefore be considered a symbol of holiness, for
it
contained the ark.
To those who know geometry, every cube has precisely 13 axes of
symmetry.
To check this fact please view the following link:
www.mathworld.wolfram.com/Cube.html
The implications of the number 13 relate directly to the tribes, which
were
13 in number in the Wilderness.
The Union Jack is itself a 2-dimensional analogue of the cube with its
13
axes of symmetry. Put simply, if we have a transparent cube in which
all 13
internal axes are visible, when we look at one face of the cube
directly
through its midpoint we will see a Union Jack outlined on the surface.
The
really cool part of it is that the midpoint line, which we use as our
point
of orientation, actually appears as just a single point.
One gets the same basic effect when rotating the cube slightly and
using
the midpoint of a surface edge as point of reference. The only
difference
is that the border is now elongated from square to rectangle, in
fitting
with the general dimensions of the standard.
The parallel between the axes and the tribes through the number 13
finds
its expression in the Union Jack. Interestingly, there will always be 4
axes obscured when we look through the cube as above. The Union Jack
portrays these obscured axes in the saltire of St. Andrew and the white
borders of the St. George cross.
Hope this might contribute to the discussion.
All good wishes in bringing Joseph and Judah closer.
Stephen Coneglan
6. Question from Batya Wootten: Israelite Identity, Rape, and
half-Castes
Batya <batya@mim.net> wrote:
>Dear Yair,
>I wanted to comment on the "Mixed Ancestry" post.
>In Scripture, heritage is always accorded based on one's father.
>This must be the case, how else would Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, even
be
>related?
>It is my understanding that the Levites follow this "patriarchal"
>inheritance rule, but Judah/Judaism does not; and this because women
were
>raped so often that an issue arose over the identity of the children
of
>these atrocities. Mercifully, they decided to accept the children
based on
>maternal heritage.
>If we follow this "Half from Mama, and half from papa," rule that
seems to
>permeate ancestral ideas, then the first Israelites, meaning the
Twelve
>Tribes, were only half-breeds. Moreover, they were only 1/8 Hebrew.
>In my opinion, the only way this stuff makes sense is to base heritage
on
>one's father. And that is the way the land will be divided based
on
>Ezekiel's prophecy.
>Have you addressed this issue in any of your writings?
>Sincerely,
>Batya Wootten
We all know the phenomenon of someone who for the last twenty years has
been jogging
around Harlem or some such place at 2 o'clock in the morning every day
for
the last
twenty years and nothing untoward ever happened. He gets to Tel Aviv
and
within half an hour
is mugged and robbed. Still distraught and extremely agitated, he then
barges in on your lecture
just when you are telling the audience that statistically a person is
20,000 times more safe in
Israel than they are in the USA! Statistics are not always convincing.
Recently I gave a talk and there wandered in a local Jewish
intellectual
celebrity who does not necessarily support
Brit-Am but felt the need for stimulation. He proceeded to announce
that
the Jews of Germany and Hungary
were descended from Jewish women who had been raped by Gentiles! This
explains, he solemnly affirmed,
why some of the said people have difficulty getting along with him!
He said all this in a more sophisticated manner than I am reporting but
the
gist was about the same.
While on a really rare bad day concerning some few individuals I might
be
tempted to remotely sympathize
with the said viewpoint -it is incorrect. Jewish women were at times
raped
over the centuries and so were non-Jewish women.
According to reports ALL women in the USA today in some areas may be at
serious risk. The same applies elsewhere.
It is a serious matter but statistically not necessarily a major
factor in
parentage and on the whole it never was.
I am speaking from the partly-detached point of view of an historian
since
in some respects that is what I am.
The idea that Jewish descent goes through the mother due to occasions
of
rape may even be reflected (if I remember correctly)
by one opinion in the Talmud but it is not the major reason. The major
reason is that such is the Law
as derived by tradition and having some support from the Bible.
Before explaining in more detail please note:
If you are a Gentile What people among the nations you belong to is
usually
determined by who your father was.
There is not really such a thing legally as being half and half. If you
belong you do so entirely.
[I am speaking from technically in practical terms things are
different
and everybody has their own uniqueness and private solution]
If you are an Israelite What Tribe amongst Israel you belong to is
usually
determined by who your father was.
I recently had a question from someone whose father had a Jewish mother
and
whose mother was East European.
The lady was married to an Englishman and felt she was an Israelite. In
such a case the tribal solution is
easy since she and her children go with her husband. If however a male
was
to be in such a situation I would say
that they probably had Israelite ancestry and which tribe they belonged
to
would somehow or other
be indicated to them by the Almighty in His own time OR at the end time
they would be counted as belonging to
whichever Tribe they sojourned amongst as explained in Ezekiel.
[Ezekiel 47:22] AND IT SHALL COME TO PASS, THAT YE SHALL DIVIDE IT BY
LOT
FOR AN INHERITANCE UNTO YOU, AND TO THE STRANGERS THAT SOJOURN AMONG
YOU,
WHICH SHALL BEGET CHILDREN AMONG YOU: AND THEY SHALL BE UNTO YOU AS
BORN IN
THE COUNTRY AMONG THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL; THEY SHALL HAVE INHERITANCE
WITH
YOU AMONG THE TRIBES OF ISRAEL.
Non-Israelites who have settled amongst us, identified with us and
shared
our trials and tribulations alongside us will be considered as the same
as
us. They will be part of whatsoever Tribe of Israel they have dwelt
amongst.
Concerning the Biblical justification for the Law that the son of
Jewish
woman and a Gentile male is Jewish a brief explanation will be given in
"Brit-Am Now"-493.
7. The name "America" found in the Biblical Book of Hosea?
From: David Hill
Subject: The New Name of Israel
To: britam@netvision.net.il, Triumphpro@aol.com
Was wondering if either one of you two have heard this
proposed before.
The person below states that from Hosea 2 that if we
were to say these one right after another it would be
"Ami Racham" which is phonetically close to
"American."
I remind you that the Word says that Ephraim will be
called by a new name (other than by the name of Isaac)
and further that some have questioned the origins of
the name America (i.e. not from vesputchi).
<><----------------------------------------------------
--- Sharon wrote:
> From: "Sharon"
> To: "David Hill"
> Subject: Re: Significance of Hosea 2:1
> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:35:39 -0400
> Consider the Hebrew
> used in Hosea 2:1. Here is Strong's:
>
> 05971 Ammi
> 07355 Racham
> It is quite obvious to me that God is speaking to
> "Ami-rakham" or "America" in Hosea.
> Hosea 2 "Say to your brothers, "Ammi," and to your
> sisters, "Racham."
Brit-Am Comment:
Hosea (chapter one) was told to take a loose woman and bear children.
The children are given names representing the Ten Tribes of Israel (and
NOT
Judah see Hosea 1:7).
At first the children receive names reflecting Rejection and Exile and
after that the names are changed
to reflect ingathering and reconciliation.
[Hosea 2:1] SAY YE UNTO YOUR BRETHREN, AMMI ["My People"]; AND TO YOUR
SISTERS, RUHAMAH ["She who is shown mercy unto"].
"Ammi" means "my people."
"Ruhamah" means "having been shown mercy to."
These names reflect the future changed state of the exiled Lost Ten
Tribes.
The two names when put together in Hebrew
sound something like: "Amiruchamah". If making one word, They could
possibly be pronounced
something like "Americha-mah" which apart from the "mah" sound is close
enough to "America".
Some type of INTENDED connection is not necessarily so far-fetched.
There are names in Hebrew derived from "phrases' etc in which for
reasons
of phonetics
part of the root-source has been deleted, e.g. Avraham, Shmuel.
Even so, we would need something more to make a serious case out of
this
proposition.
Neverthless, it makes for an interesting possibility.
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