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I have a question concerning
the Khzarist "conversion"to Judaism-[made ONLY for trade purposes &
independence, from the Caliphate & from Rome-],
and their development of, adherance to,
and belief in the Babylonian Talmudic teachings-*IN PARTICULAR*,
in juxtaposition to the Mosaic 5 Books, and It's teachings.
I have heard that the adherents to the latter, are few in number,
and are persecuted in Israel.
And I find it concerning.
I read where Khazaric converts now make up more that 95+%
of the current Jewish population, that from the Jewish Encyclopedia.
Also, in this encyclopedia (I beleive this is the source-could be some other reputable Jewish source of Rabbinical nature)- where it is stated that Esau and Edom are part of the Jewish population now also.
This would mean for the Khzars:
- these people are NOT blood lineage to SHEM, EBER, nor ABRAHAM.
{Which means, they are NOT Semites.}
And in the case of Esau and Edom, are NOT BLOOD descendents of JACOB and the 12,-(13), which means = they are not ISRAELITE -
nor inheritors of the Promises made to ABRAHAM, ISAAC & JACOB =SPECIFICALLY. SO, if this is true, then 95% of the Jewish population are neither
Semites, Hebrews, nor Israelites. Now I am concerned. I would be interested to know your views and information about this matter- you can just direct me to previous posts in Brit-Am, as you are, no doubt aware of this curiousity- Thank You,
Respectfully,
Sharon Sedeen
PS: Thank you for emailing me, and thank you for considering my questions.
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Brit-Am Reply:
You have been reading anti-Jewish hate tripe.
You should repent and return while you are still perhaps relatively
uncontaminated by the impurity of such sources.
Concerning the Khazars see our articles:
http://www.britam.org/KhazarIndex.html
For a good detailed book on the subject see our own production:
http://www.britam.org/Khazarbook.html
Khazar converts do not make up to 95% of the population.
They comprise a small percentage of the Ashkenazi Jews.
Whoever you have been hearing from has mislead you.
The Jewish Encyclopedia says none of the things you quote it as saying apart
from stating that Edom is today amongst Judah.
This is a mistake.
For more about Edom see:
http://www.britam.org/Questions/QuesEdom.html
Incidentally, judging from the tone of your questions I would guess that you
yourself are a descendants of Edomites.
Not to worry though, we all have ancestors.
An Edomite after the third generation could be accepted into Israel (Deuteronomy
23:7-8).
You said:
# ...adherance
to, and belief in the Babylonian Talmudic teachings-*IN PARTICULAR*, in
juxtaposition to the Mosaic 5 Books, and It's teachings. I have heard that the
adherents to the latter, are few in number,
and are persecuted in Israel. And I find it concerning. #
There is nothing wrong with the Babylonian Talmud if one does not listen to
anti-Jewish propaganda but checks things out for oneself or through Brit-Am
entries and references to the subject.
By adherents to the Mosaic 5 Books you referred to you evidently mean the
Karaites.
These are not persecuted.
Just the opposite for an almost non-existent community they are quite pampered.
It would appear that the only really active Karaite in the State of Israel is an
American Jew who was not born a Karaite but declared himself one and whose
supporters are all Gentiles Christians!
Shortly we will publish an expose on the Karaite Myth.
Yair,
I think the 'black' at beginning of the Song of Solomon is not implying
Negroid. The verses are:
Song of Solomon Chapter 1
5: I am black, but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, as the tents of
Kedar, as the curtains of Solomon.
6: Look not upon me, because I am black, because the sun hath looked upon
me: my mother's children were angry with me; they made me the keeper of the
vineyards; but mine own vineyard have I not kept.
The female writer is saying she is black because the sun has shined on her.
She is evidently white, but darkened from outdoor labor.
Dave Jackson
Texas
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Brit-Am Reply:
The heroine in the Song of Solomon says she is black.
She seems to emphasize her blackness.
1: 5: # I am black #.
The word for "black" here in Hebrew is "shechor" i.e. black in the simple
sense.
1: 6: # Look not upon me, because I am black #.
The word for "black" here in Hebrew is "shechorchoret" with a doubling of the
end part.
In Modern Hebrew and according to some Classical Commentators this would mean "a
little black" or "blackish" though some would say the opposite and that it means
"very black", "doubly black".
At all events compared to the daughters of Jerusalem our heroine is darker than
they are and she is apprehensive of their possible prejudice against her.
The heroine is a shepherdess and people who are outside all day along
(especially in Mediterranean areas) are liable to become quite tanned.
On the other hand the possibility exists that she was born black and is saying
that all black people are such due to their closeness to the Equator.
They are what they accuse the Jews of being i.e. agents of evil
and descendants of
Edomites.
We will prove this in an upcoming article.
They have incriminated themselves by the poison of their own
missives that they had the effrontery to direct at my august presence.
We have written about this in the past but now intend to expand on the subject
and expose the culprits for what they are.
In preparation for this article we looked into who the Rechabites were even
though in this case too we have explained this question in the past also:
Apart from finding a bit of what we looked for we also came across sources that
have an interest for Brit-Am and the location of the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel.
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Source (a) General Information
Concerning the Rachabites
in general:
Wikipedia says:
Rechabite
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Rechabites
- the descendants of Rechab through Jonadab or Jehonadab. They belonged to the
Kenites, who accompanied the children of Israel into the holy land, and dwelt
among them. Moses married a Kenite wife,[1] and Jael was the wife of "Heber the
Kenite".[2] Saul also showed kindness to the Kenites.[3] The main body of the
Kenites dwelt in cities, and adopted settled habits of life;[4] but Jehonadab
forbade his descendants to drink wine or to live in cities.[5] They were
commanded to lead always a nomad life. They adhered to the law laid down by
Jonadab, and were noted for their fidelity to the old-established custom of
their family in the days of Jeremiah (35); and this feature of their character
is referred to by God for the purpose of giving point to his message to
Judah.[6][7].
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Source (b) Lost Israelite Tribes
Information
Now we come to the Rachabites being in the British Isles!
Another Source says:
http://orion.huji.ac.il/orion/archives/2000a/msg00063.html
orion-list Rechabite History - Part 1 of 2 (A Little Known Text)
From: George Brooks
Extracts:
Eisenman
has explored the sometimes elusive
connection between the Rechabites,
Jewish asceticism and the early Christian communities. In the Jewish Bible the
Rechabites,
in exchange for their discipline and spiritually-oriented self-control, are
guaranteed to survive as a clan until the End Times. They forbade themselves
wine and maintained a nomadic lifestyle.
Eisenman
has located support in the Talmud and elsewhere that the
Rechabites
married into the Temple priestly families and also into the Scribe families (the
degree to which these families overlap is of some interest but I cannot go into
this at this time).
The Church Fathers also make references to the inner circle of
Jesus as being
Rechabite
Priests, which is doubly important: 1) it shows that the presence of
Rechabite
spiritual lineage continued into the days of Jesus and 2) that this lineage had
combined to some extent with the priestly lineages.
Naturally, because of the
Rechabite
mission to inhabit the desert wilderness in and around Palestine, the question
arises as to whether there was some combination between the self-denial of
Rechabite
families and the self-denial of the
DSS
and/or Essene
families.
Depending on the material examined, this can become an agonizing
process. In the text I reproduce below, we can see separate threads from Jewish
and Christian ascetic tradition.
Even the terminology evokes wonder. There is mention of "isles" or "islands"
where the Blessed Ones dwell, which is the kind of terminology that Josephus
uses to describe the destination of souls in the
Essene
view of the afterlife. Other than this
Rechabite
literature, I have not yet encountered Christian text that uses "isles" in the
same way - - but maybe some others have?
The most interesting thing about this "isle" is that people still die on it, and
**then** the soul departs to Heaven. In other words, "Paradise" and "Heaven" do
not appear to be synonymous! Clearly, the
Rechabite-inspired
texts (if not the actual
Rechabite clan in reality) offer
us quite a grab-bag of ideas.
As a service to the Orion, I thought I would provide some text from a
translation by James H.
Charlesworth called THE HISTORY
OF THE RECHABITES,
Vol. I: The Greek Recension
(Scholars Press (c) 1982). There appears to be two volumes but I have not yet
obtained a copy of the 2nd volume.
Charlesworth
writes:
P. 1: "I have concluded that an early Jewish document about the
Rechabites
was expanded with numerous Christian sections at the beginning and end."
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[Brit-Am Remark: NOTICE The originally Jewish origin of these sources is
admitted..]
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"The apocrypha [The History of the
Rechabites]
has circulated under numerous titles and even if it does not preserve portions
of an ancient Jewish writing, it is important - - even fascinating - - for its
record of Jewish reflections on the legend of the lost tribes and the marvelous
characteristics of the terrestrial paradise and its inhabitants, the Blessed
Ones, the Rechabites."
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[Brit-Am Remark: NOTICE the words above
"Jewish reflections on the legend of the lost tribes".
The significance of this will be discussed below.]
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P. 2:
Charlesworth
lists several different titles for the various
recensions
of this work.
Greek MS B "(The) Word of Our Devout Father
Zosimus
(About) the Holy Blessed Ones. (O Lord,) Bless."
Greek MS C "(The) Narrative of Monk
Zosimus
Concerning the Fathers, Verily the Brahmans Whom Alexander Found *and Philip and
he Conversed with Them,* Those Being Naked as a Serpent. Therefore I wish to
Show from Which Tribe They were Separated, (and then) Inhabited the Islands of
the Blessed Ones" (*ex margine)
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[Brit-Am Remark: NOTICE the words "Islands of the Blessed Ones".
This expression often refers to the Islands of Ireland and Britain see below.]
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Syriac
MS B "The History of the Sons of
Jonadab, the Son of
Rechab,
who are in the Midst of the Ocean, the Great Sea, When God Showed Them to
Zosimus,
the Virtuous Hermit"
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[Brit-Am Remark: NOTICE the words "the Ocean, the Great Sea".
This expression usually refers to the Atlantic Ocean and the North Sea lapping
the coast of Ireland and Britain see below.]
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Syriac
MS D "The History of the Blessed Ones, the Sons of the
Rechabites,
Whose Record is Recorded by Jeremiah the Prophet When He Said that They are the
Sons of Jonadab,
the Son of Rechab,
who are Inhabitants of the City of Jerusalem. But it was Translated from Hebrew
into Greek and from Greek into
Syriac by the Hands of the
Reverend Mar
Jacob of Edessa."
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Brit-Am Commentary and
Explanation:
The Rechabites descended from the Kenites from the clan of Jethro
father-in-law of Moses.
They attached themselves to the Children of Israel when they came out of Egypt
and helped the Israelites.
God promised that the Kenites (of whom the Rechabites were part) would be
rewarded for their faithfulness.
They would go into Exile with the Ten Tribes of Israel and return with them. God
HIMSELF speaks well of them.
http://www.britam.org/numbers/7balak2.html
[Numbers 24:22] NEVERTHELESS THE
KENITE SHALL BE WASTED, UNTIL
ASSHUR
SHALL CARRY THEE AWAY CAPTIVE.
This verse may be interpreted differently as the Rabbinical Commentators have
done:
Rashi:
##EVEN IF YOU SHALL BE WIPED AWAY
KEIN
FOR A PERIOD WHEN ASHUR
[ASSYRIA] TAKES YOU CAPTIVE [YOU SHALL RETURN WITH THE TEN TRIBES!##
# The Kenites
here are those who were to convert together with
Jethro
and attach themselves to the Children of Israel. They always remained as a
somewhat separate group. They were exiled by the Assyrians with the Ten Tribes.
They are destined to return with them (Rashi).
Traditionally the Kenites
were derived from Midian
and were much darker than most Israelites. Who could they be today?#
Could they be the Black Irish and the darker types whom we find throughout the
British Isles?
The Midrashim also mention the Rechabites as being alongside the Lost Ten Tribes
in Exile.
Until now we found it difficult to reconcile these Midrashim with other
sources.
This is what we wrote about them in the past.
See:
"Brit-Am Now"-907
http://britam.org/now/907Now.html
#5. Question to ALL: The Nomadic Rechabites and Australia?
http://britam.org/Jeremiah33to36.html
[Jeremiah 35:19] THEREFORE
THUS SAITH
THE LORD OF HOSTS, THE GOD OF ISRAEL;
JONADAB
THE SON OF RECHAB
SHALL NOT WANT A MAN TO STAND BEFORE ME FOR EVER.
# The Rechabites
will be rewarded.
# A Midrash
associates the Rechabites
with the Land of Sinim
and therefore with Australia? #
From the above sources Christian-Jewish sources we see that the Rechabites were
associated with the Lost Tribes and were in the "Islands of the Blessed Ones"
which were in "the Ocean, the Great Sea".
In our notes on Tarshish
http://www.britam.org/Questions/QuesTarshish.html
we show that in Jewish Rabbinical Literature "the Ocean, the Great Sea"
meant the Atlantic Ocean which was beyond the Mediterranean Sea and the Straits
of Gibraltar.
In our article,
Aed
and Israel
http://www.britam.org/aed.html
The Lost Tribes in Celtic and
Arabic Lore
We show how the expression Blessed Isles refers to the Islands of Ireland and
Britain.
In that same article we also show how Jewish Sources as transmitted by Arab
intermediaries in effect placed the Lost Ten Tribes in the British Isles.
From the above extracts we see how Jewish Sources as transmitted by Christian
intermediaries and the association of the Lost Tribes with the Rechabites in
effect also placed the Lost Ten Tribes in the British Isles.
This source could prove to be important.
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