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The Brit-Am
Movement of the Lost Ten Tribes
Brit-Am Now no. 1452
The Lost Ten Tribes of Israel Movement
27 January 2010, 12 Shevet 5770
Contents:
1. The Jastrow
Dictionary on Talmud.
Brit-Am Understanding of the Tartan Patterned Many Colored Coat of Joseph
Confirmed Yet Again!
2. Question on Ptolemy, Gomara,
and Sambation.
3. Cherie Koch: Esau and David were Ruddy
4. Dennis McGinlay:
The Almighty Has a Purpose. for Creating Israelites as they are!
5. Michelle Bowie: It Takes All Types.. Black People not a Multitude in Israel
6. Brit-Am Responses to Tamika
and Eugene on Color
7. Proverbs 25.
1. The
Jastrow
Dictionary on Talmud
Brit-Am Understanding of the Tartan
Patterned Many Colored Coat of Joseph Confirmed Yet Again!
The following entry has been added to our article:
The Scottish Tartan Cloak of Joseph
http://www.britam.org/tartan.html
Marcus Jastrow notes (p.1166) the verb "PIS" meaning to divide, split,
distribute. This verb was associated was associated by the Sages with the word
PAS (plural "pasim" as in Cotonet Pasim, Genesis 37:3) in the Midrash.
Jastrow (p.1191) translates the PAS in "cotonet pasim" of Joseph (Genesis 37:3)
as meaning stripe. He gives examples.
Jastrow points out (p.1196) that a word from the same root "PIS, PISPAS" can
mean colored stripes or checkers of different colors and brings examples from
Talmudic and Midrashic Literature,
# Pasipas...
1) cut and polished stone block...
2) cube, die.
3) check (in garments), square or stripe cmp. PAS.
e.g. # Paspasin... the faintest checkers (or stripes) [Hebrew: "pasapsin"] of
the Leviathan's skin outshine the sun (v. Yalk. Lev. 653).- #
4) voting tablet, verdict.
In Modern Hebrew "PasiPas" (spelt with the same word root as "Pas" as in "Pasim")
means a mosaic since it is comprised of colored squares!
A "cotonet pasim" could therefore have been a coat of many colors in a checkered
(tartan type) pattern!
In the light of the sources taken as a complementary whole the suggestion that a
"cotonet pasim" was a cloak of several colors in a tartan type pattern
should be accepted as a first choice. It is the answer that fits the different
sources more than any other.
2. Question on Ptolemy,
Gomara,
and Sambation.
Adil Olander wrote:
Hi!
I read on the web page:
http://britam.org/CimmScyth.html
"On Ptolemy's Maps of the relevant regions, the land of Urartu is called
Armenia. The former region of Mannae (according to Ptolemy) comprised parts of
the lands of the Caspii, Cadussi, and Sambatae (cf. Sambation place of
Israelite exile). East of the Sambatae was the Land of the Sagartii who were
called Zikirtu by the Assyrians. It was against the Zikirtu that Sargon
campaigned when Urartu invaded "Gimir". "Gimir" may well be in the land of the
Sambatae in Mannae where Ptolemy recorded the city of "GOMARA" and "Gomer"
like "Gimir" is another form for Cimmerian!"
I couldn't find this mention of Sambatae-Mannae-Gomara by Ptolemy. Could you
send me the exact reference as this is indeed very interesting.
Yours,
Adil Olander
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Brit-Am Reply:
Ptolemy appears to be only available in Latin or Greek. No modern translation
and edition seems to be available which is a great pity.
In most major libraries however one should find several reproductions of
Medieval and Renaissance editions of Ptolemy. These works contain maps and text.
The excerpt you quoted from the Brit-Am web site is an extract from "The
Tribes".
http://britam.org/the-Tribes.html
Everything we have mentioned in our explanation to the maps in The Tribes
parallels that of Ptolemy, e.g. if we mention a place name in Media look up the
Maps that Ptolemy dedicates to Media and the text of Ptolemy accompanying them.
In the text of Ptolemy the Sambatae are mentioned together with Adiabene and
Garameos towards the end of the entry on Babylonia and just before the one on
Media.
Gomara is listed (just after Arbela) in the region of Media (Media Regio) at the
co-ordinates used by Ptolemy 81 1/3 33 1/2 .
3. Cherie Koch: Esau and David were
Ruddy
From: Cherie Koch <cheriekoch@hotmail.com>
RE: Brit-Am Now no. 1451
#2. Live and Learn: Tamika and Eugene say Hebrews were Black
http://britam.org/now2/1451Now.html#Live
I am amazed at how much twisting goes on to try to advance the theory that the
patriarchs were black and not light. Black hair is better for braiding, so the
people must have been black and not had straight hair? That is illogical
reasoning at its worst.
Scripture is quite clear that Abraham's grandson, Esau was red (ruddy). David
was ruddy. When I think of a ruddy complexion, I think of the classical Irish or
Scots-Irish redhead, a red haired Jew in Israel, Russia or Europe, or perhaps
even a light African with light skin and hair. There are more examples, but
these are some that come to mind.
I'm not vested in this and am not prejudiced against Africans or blacks.
I've just seen too many angry, black Hebrew media presentations trying to assert
that the patriarchs and all the way back to Adam were black and it doesn't
strike a chord with me at all--not in logical reasoning, "proofs", or even the
spirit in which such assertions are brought forth.
Also, interestingly, one commentator here said that a baby is white before the
black pigmentation appears. At least at face value, that appears to be contrary
to that person's assertion of first black, and then white came later down the
genealogical tree.
I really don't believe that the proofs are there for a black Adam, Abraham, or
Shemitic people.
All that aside, I think it's too late to be zealous for 'racial purity' as most
lineages have admixture. My comments here are not intended to promote a racist,
Aryan point of view. And for American blacks, I believe that one Genealogical
DNA site for black ancestry warns American blacks not to be "disappointed" that
they might find out that they have European DNA since about 30% of Y-DNA testers
discover that their Y-DNA is European.
On the other hand, I'm not advocating admixture. I believe that we should be
proud to carry on our tribal heritage and there is an advantage and blessing in
doing so.
Just wanted to point those out, so that I'm not misunderstood in my motives
behind my statements.
Thanks,
Cherie Koch
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Brit-Am Reply:
Esau and David were both described as "admoni" meaning reddish.
Some translations render this as "ruddy" meaning having a reddish complexion.
The simple and most accepted meaning however is that they both had red hair.
4. Dennis
McGinlay:
The Almighty Has a Purpose for Creating Israelites as they are!
From: "Dennis Mc" <dennismcginlay@uwclub.net>
RE: Brit-Am Now no. 1451
#2. Live and Learn: Tamika and Eugene say Hebrews were Black
http://britam.org/now2/1451Now.html#Live
Dear Yair
Tamika and Eugene seem not to have read or understood their bible other than to
prove the perfidy of the British and American Empires down through the ages
according to the promises given to Abraham. Come on guys, it's only for a little
while in the scheme of things. Take it up with God next time you see him.
Yes, we're all Gods children but his purpose will out! Get over it!
Shalom
Dennis McGinlay
5. Michelle Bowie: It Takes All Types.
Black People not a Multitude in Israel
From: Michelle Bowie <mbowie02@verizon.net>
RE: Brit-Am Now no. 1451
#2. Live and Learn: Tamika and Eugene say Hebrews were Black
http://britam.org/now2/1451Now.html#Live
Shalom Yair,
In response to those who say the Hebrews are black, more specifically, Israel.
First, let me make sure it is understood by virtue of how much the Israelites
mixed with other nations, and details are given that King David and his son
Solomon had many wives and concubines. Especially Solomon. So, that being said
there are many who are indeed black who are of Israelite stock. However, to say
without any scripture to back them up that ALL Israel is black is hysterical
beyond belief. To quote one verse and use that to apply across the board that
all of Israel is black is nonsense.
Also, let us reference a few other verses here:
Gen 28:3 And God Almighty bless thee, and make thee fruitful, and multiply
thee, that thou mayest be a multitude of people;
the Gen 32:12 And thou saidst, I will surely do thee good, and make thy seed as
the sand of the sea, which cannot be numbered for multitude.
Gen 48:4 And said unto me, Behold, I will make thee fruitful, and multiply
thee, and I will make of thee a multitude of people; and will give this land to
thy seed after thee for an everlasting possession.
Gen 48:19 And his father refused, and said, I know it, my son, I know it: he
also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger
brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of
nations.
Exo 12:38 And a mixed multitude went up also with them; and flocks, and herds,
even very much cattle.
Deu 1:10 The LORD your God hath multiplied you, and, behold, ye are this day as
the stars of heaven for multitude.
Multitude, multitude, multitude. Just the demographics and statistics alone of
real world data, does not validate the black race of peoples as being a
multitude. And, they did not go in and possess the land. I don't know what the
racial statistics are for the land of Israel, but I'd be willing to bet the
black population is not the majority there.
These are just a few verses that show what these two individuals are claiming is
wrong.
YES, there are many of color who have Israelite blood in their veins, ...but
they are not all black and it is not the majority either. I know a few of the
tribe of Judah who are black and a few who are white, and white and black of
Benjamin and black who are of Dan. And even famous celebrities of Judah who are
both of black and white race.
And so, if these two individuals who claim this are really believing themselves
to be Israel, then they should be leaving their Christian churches and getting
into TORAH study doing away with the pagan practice of Xmas, Easter and all
other pagan holidays and they should be keeping the proper Shabbats and the
Appointed Times as shadowed in the Feasts.
I forgot to add to the reply about only the black race being Israel....there
are also many of Hispanic racial origin who are indeed of Israel. There are many
social networking sites out there these days whose members are Torah keeping
people who have come out of the Christian church system and are getting back to
the things that are true in the scriptures. Doing away with all the pagan
things. They are from all walks of life and all colors, thereby proving out what
is said where we are a multitude of nations through Jacob's blessings to
Joseph's sons.
Yours Truly, MB
6. Brit-Am Responses to
Tamika
and Eugene on Color
RE: Brit-Am Now no. 1451
#2. Live and Learn: Tamika and Eugene say Hebrews were Black
http://britam.org/now2/1451Now.html#Live
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(a)
Tamika
http://britam.org/now2/1451Now.html#Live
Tamika said that the ancient Hebrews must have been black because:
(1) They were cursed with slavery.
(2) The region they lived in was hot.
(3) Pictures of Hebrews or alleged pictures.
(4) The braiding of hair: Black peoples hair being easier to braid.
(5) Miriam turned white like a baby the same as Black People are born white but
turn black later.
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Brit-Am Replies:
(1) Slavery
It was prophesied [Deuteronomy 28:68] that if the Israelites sinned they would
be punished by being sold into captivity.
The Israelites from the Ten Tribes were taken into captivity by the Assyrians.
Some of those were used as slaves by Assyria as illustrated
on Assyrian engravings.
The Jews of Judah after rebelling were taken into slavery by the Romans. They
sold into Egypt, Italy, and elsewhere.
They fulfilled the Prophecy.
See: THE JEWS ARE JUDAH by Steven Collins and Yair Davidiy
#6. The Prophesied Return in Ships as Slaves to Egypt Fulfilled in Judah!!
http://www.britam.org/judah.html#6
(2) Climatical Influence
The Israelites lived in the Middle East.
This area can be very hot. It includes types of climate ranging from almost
Alpine in parts of Lebvanon and Turkey
to desert conditions. In Biblical times the climate was cooler. There was more
tree cover and greenery. We can thank the Arabs
for changing that.
It may be that the Ancient Hebrews were mainly of Mediterranean type coloring
but other types were also present as we have shown.
Environment does have an influence and after moving to colder (or warmer) areas
one could expect physical modification.
(3) Pictures
We have an article showing pictures of ancient Israelites. These pictures are
reliable.
http://www.britam.org/HebrewTypes.html
Anyone who disagrees with Brit-Am on this issue is welcome to write to us. They
should however explain why they disagree
with us and give evidence of what they say.
(4) Braiding of Hair
I do not know whether or not the Bible mentions women braiding hair.
I have however noticed here and there females with braided locks.
It would seem that those of the opposite sex that have adopted this particular
practice and caught my eye have been blond, red-hairs, brunettes, and jet black.
In other words of all colors.
(5) Concerning Miriam see our article:
The Black Woman. Color Prejudice Condemned by the Torah
http://www.britam.org/CushiteWoman.html
Miriam was punished by being stricken with leprosy which made her "white as
snow" (Numbers 12:10) i.e. shining white.
Aaron asked Moses to implore the Almighty to heal her and said:
# LET HER NOT BE AS ONE DEAD, OF WHOM THE FLESH IS HALF CONSUMED WHEN HE COMETH
OUT OF HIS MOTHER'S WOMB# [Numbers 12:12] .
You say that this proves that Mirian was a black person since black people are
often born white but change their color shortly afterwards.
The verse refers to a foetus that is aborted in a state of partial formation.
Leprosy would turn the skin shiny white and rot it away.
Most white people are not like that.
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(b) Eugene
http://britam.org/now2/1451Now.html#Live
Eugene said:
(1. Words in Igbo have meanings in Biblical Hebrew.
(2. Taking the children of Israel back to Egypt (land of Slavery) in ships
(Deuteronomy 28:68).
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Brit-Am Replies:
(1. Words in Igbo have meanings in Biblical Hebrew.
The Canaanites spoke a language similar to Hebrew. The natives of West Africa
had traditions that both Israelites and Canaanites had settled amongst them.
The name once given to the area, "Ghana" (whence we have "Guinea") is an
Egyptian pronunciation of Canaan.
(2. Concerning slavery and going back to Egypt in ships we have answered this
question in our reply above to Tamika.
It is interesting that the following chapter in Deuteronomy speaks of Erets
Acheret (Another Land of New World) which was an name given to North America.
[Deuteronomy 29:28] AND THE L-RD ROOTED
THEM OUT OF THEIR LAND IN ANGER, AND IN WRATH, AND IN GREAT INDIGNATION, AND
CAST THEM INTO ANOTHER LAND, AS IT IS THIS DAY.
# INTO ANOTHER LAND#: See notes on Erets Acheret
http://britam.org/Moses/Moses-10.html .
It is interesting to note that many (possibly the numerical majority though this
is not commonly admitted) of the early white settlers of North America were
indentured servants or convicted felons doing their time. Later immigrants from
Ireland (and Scotland) were also brought there sometimes under almost slavery
conditions. A similar situation existed in Australia at the beginning.
Cush represents Africa. Cush came from Ham. Cush is black and represents a
reality distant from that of Israel.
Jeremiah 13: 23 Can the Ethiopian [Cushi] change his skin or the leopard its
spots?
Then may you also do good who are accustomed to do evil.
Amos 9: 7 "Are you not like the people of Ethiopia [KeBnei Cushiim] to Me,
O children of Israel?" says the LORD.
"Did I not bring up Israel from the land of Egypt,
The Philistines from Caphtor,
And the Syrians from Kir?"
7. Proverbs 25 (New King James Version)
1 These also are proverbs of Solomon which the men of Hezekiah king of Judah
copied:
2 It is the glory of God to conceal a matter,
But the glory of kings is to search out a matter.
3 As the heavens for height and the earth for depth,
So the heart of kings is unsearchable.
4 Take away the dross from silver,
And it will go to the silversmith for jewelry.
5 Take away the wicked from before the king,
And his throne will be established in righteousness.
6 Do not exalt yourself in the presence of the king,
And do not stand in the place of the great;
7 For it is better that he say to you,
'Come up here,'
Than that you should be put lower in the presence of the prince,
Whom your eyes have seen.
8 Do not go hastily to court;
For what will you do in the end,
When your neighbor has put you to shame?
9 Debate your case with your neighbor,
And do not disclose the secret to another;
10 Lest he who hears it expose your shame,
And your reputation be ruined.
11 A word fitly spoken is like apples of gold
In settings of silver.
12 Like an earring of gold and an ornament of fine gold
Is a wise rebuker to an obedient ear.
13 Like the cold of snow in time of harvest
Is a faithful messenger to those who send him,
For he refreshes the soul of his masters.
14 Whoever falsely boasts of giving
Is like clouds and wind without rain.
15 By long forbearance a ruler is persuaded,
And a gentle tongue breaks a bone.
16 Have you found honey?
Eat only as much as you need,
Lest you be filled with it and vomit.
17 Seldom set foot in your neighbor's house,
Lest he become weary of you and hate you.
18 A man who bears false witness against his neighbor
Is like a club, a sword, and a sharp arrow.
19 Confidence in an unfaithful man in time of trouble
Is like a bad tooth and a foot out of joint.
20 Like one who takes away a garment in cold weather,
And like vinegar on soda,
Is one who sings songs to a heavy heart.
21 If your enemy is hungry, give him bread to eat;
And if he is thirsty, give him water to drink;
22 For so you will heap coals of fire on his head,
And the LORD will reward you.
23 The north wind brings forth rain,
And a backbiting tongue an angry countenance.
24 It is better to dwell in a corner of a housetop,
Than in a house shared with a contentious woman.
25 As cold water to a weary soul,
So is good news from a far country.
26 A righteous man who falters before the wicked
Is like a murky spring and a polluted well.
27 It is not good to eat much honey;
So to seek one's own glory is not glory.
28 Whoever has no rule over his own spirit
Is like a city broken down, without walls.
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