you write:
#There was also the god Thor who is a copy of the Hittite thunder
god "Toru" who in Israel was also known as Ramon and in Syria as Rimon. Thor
himself in Old German was also reffered to as "Ramon" the same as in Israel. #
This is interesting. Do you have more information about this? And what is your
references to this? Can't find anything on the web.
Thank you!
Eirk, Norway.
Brit-Am Reply:
I have not got my notes immediately available at present.
We will write an article on the subject.
In general a good part of Scandinavian Mythology had its origins in the Middle
East.
for example,
Balder derives from Baal who is killed and comes to life.
Nanna, the wife of Balder, is linked with the Sumerian goddess Inanna daughter
of Nanna, the Moon God and Ningal, the Moon Goddess (of Ur).
The very names are identical.
All these gods had differing traditions attached to them both in the Middle East
and in Scandinavia. The fact that the stories about them that we have received
are different from each other does not mean that similar legends did not exist.
See Also:
Orjan Svensson:
Viking-Phoenician Links -
http://britam.org/now/now257.html
Hebrew-Phoenicians in Scandinavia -
http://britam.org/now/595Now.html
A Similarity between Scandinavian Languages and Aramaic -
http://britam.org/now/907Now.html.
2. Queries About
Edomites,
the Catholic Church, and Japan.
Susanna wrote:
Shalom Yair,
I noticed on the BritAm website that you are currently working on an in depth
research project about Edomites and I thought of two questions relating to the
topic.
http://www.britam.org/
Edom/EsauContents.html
(1. The first question concerns the leadership of the Catholic Church whose
headquarters is in the middle of Italy. The BritAm website identifies Italy
as being dominated by Edomites. I know that there are many Italian Cardinals
in the Vatican in Rome. Would this Italian influence in the Catholic
leadership be primarily of Edomite or of non-Edomite origin? I ask because
history has shown many centuries of anti-semitism by the Catholic Church.
What is the risk of anti-semitism returning to the Catholic Church? (I ask
this question because I believe it is possible to provide an answer while also
avoiding the religious differences.)
(2. My second question concerns Japan which has been identified as Edomite by
BritAm with the possibility a very minor Israelite component. Currently Japan
is depopulating due to a very low birth rate. Is there any way to evaluate
the portion of Japan's population that is reproducing according to BritAm's
Ephramite criteria? If so, is it also possible to separately evaluate those
who chose to raise only one child and those who chose to raise more than one
child? Would this provide cause to re-evaluate Japan as a whole according to
the Ephramite criteria at some time in the future after the depopulation has
run its course? I do remember reading that the experts are unsure what to
expect when a population has a birthrate as low as Japan's current birthrate
so there is already uncertainty present in the situation.
Susanna
Brit-Am Reply:
Our identifications of Edom etc are not in the same category as those of our
beliefs concerning the Israelite origins of Western Peoples.
Equations of certain gentiles nations with Biblical figures in some cases have
an aspect of speculation.
They may be wrong or their applicability may be much more limited.
Edom according to Rabbinical tradition did contribute towards the founding of
Rome. Some of the Roman leadership was descended from Edom.
Even well after that a tradition existed that in the environs of Rome were still
to be found descendants of Edom.
Most Italians however are not in this category.
The same applies to Germany and the Germans though here the Edomite element may
have been stronger.
In this connection the phenomenon of Mussolini and the alliance of Fascist Italy
with the Nazis is of interest.
As for the Catholic Church, it contained both positive and negative elements.
It is not so much the religion but the people who adhere to it.
Mainstream Protestantism is not necessarily any better.
In my opinion they who are aware of their Israelite ancestry should try to
study the Bible as much as possible.
Concerning Japan we are not certain but we did find indications of some
(possibly very small) Edomite input in ancient times.
http://britam.org/Questions/QuesJapan.html
It could be of interest to compare regional and socio-economic differences
of birthrate in Japan with estimates of different ethnic types within the
country.
In the west unfortunately it appears to be the Israelite-descended elements who
have decided to have less babies.
3. Query Concerning the Israelite
Origins of Ancient Settlers of the British Isles.
Amnon Goldberg wrote:
Can you clarify which of the tribes of the British Isles listed
here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:
Tribes_of_ancient_Britain
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:
Tribes_of_ancient_Ireland
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:
Tribes_of_ancient_Scotland
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:
Tribes_involved_in_Caesar%27s_invasions_of_Britain
together with the Celts, Britons, Druids, Romans, Norse, Vikings,
Angles, Saxons, Danes, Normans etc, that you believe are of Israelite origin.
And which of Edomitic origin?
And which of post-Flood (which took place in 2104 BCE according to Jewish
chronology) Japhetic origin?
Brit-Am Reply:
This subject is dealt with in detail in our work "The Tribes"
http://britam.org/the-Tribes.html
In the near future we may well renew our studies in this area and enlarge
upon them.
We concentrate on Israelite origins.
Edomite ancestors and those of other Biblical figures etc are recalled in
incidental sidenotes.
The Romans in our opinion were not Israelites.
The Druids were pagan priests whose cult contained Middle Eastern and Hebraic
elements.
Norse and Vikings are one and the same.
The Celts consisted of a large number of different groups some of which were
Israelite and some were not.
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