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Brit-Am Now no. 1859: Ten Tribes Studies.
16 April 2012, 24 Nissan 5772
Contents:
1. Dempsey Bruton: letter of Appreciation.
2. Question on the Massagetae, Ten Tribes, and Russia.
3. New Mini-Article. Well, Tickle Me Pink!
Defendants of the Samaritans Criticize the Brit-Am Approach!!!



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1. Dempsey Bruton: letter of Appreciation.
Thanks so much for the great work you are doing. I pray for God's blessings on your very important work that has produced so much evidence of Israelite identity.
Dempsey Bruton, Virginia, USA






2. Question on the Massagetae, Ten Tribes, and Russia.
Rob M  wrote:
 
Yair

What about Russians?  They are obviously from the Scythian stock.  I 
have been led to believe they come from the Massegetae group, which 
originated from the Gilead being exiled first by Assyria and 
eventually migrated above the Caspian Sea, far north of Armenia.

Do you have an opinion/evidence for Russians?

I know Russia was named after a Sweden chieftain.

Thanks

Rob





Brit-Am Reply:
Rob Shalom,
I have to admit that I do not recall seeing such a suggestion (equating the Russians with the Massagetae) before.
It does have make some sense and it would answer certain questions.
I see by your e-mail address that you are located in Germany. Perhaps German scholars have developed this theme?

The Massagetae are usually described as being part of the Scythians and as dwelling east of the Caspian Sea though on occasion they may also be located further to the west.

Wikipedia tells us:
Massagetae
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massagetae
About the origin of the name Massagetae, scholars have emphasized that:
"The classical and modern authorities say that the word "Massagetae" means "great" Getae. The ninth-century work De Universo of Rabanus Maurus[7][8] states, "The Massagetae are in origin from the tribe of the Scythians, and are called Massagetae, as if heavy, that is, strong Getae."[9]

Ammianus Marcellinus considered the Alans to be the former Massagetae.[11] At the close of the 4th century CE, Claudian (the court poet of Emperor Honorius and Stilicho) wrote of Alans and Massagetae in the same breath: "the Massagetes who cruelly wound their horses that they may drink their blood, the Alans who break the ice and drink the waters of Maeotis' lake" (In Rufinem).

Procopius writes in History of the Wars Book III: The Vandalic War[12]: "the Massagetae whom they now call Huns" (XI. 37.), "there was a certain man among the Massagetae, well gifted with courage and strength of body, the leader of a few men; this man had the privilege handed down from his fathers and ancestors to be the first in all the Hunnic armies to attack the enemy" (XVIII. 54.).

[Note Procopius elsewhere identifies the Huns with the Cimmerians.]

Evagrius Scholasticus (Ecclesiastical History. Book 3. Ch. II.): "and in Thrace, by the inroads of the Huns, formerly known by the name of Massagetae, who crossed the Ister without opposition".[13]

It has been suggested that the Jats[of India] are the descendants of the Massagetae.

In addition to the above Roman sources often equated the Goths with the Massagetae (see History of the Goths  by Herwig Wolfram, 1987).
The name Massagetae is often explained as meaning Greater Getae and the term Getae was often applied to the Goths and their offshoots.

cf.
# The other branch [of descendants of Japhet son of Noah cf. Genesis ch.10], who are best known by the name of Goths, or the Gothic nations, the Getae and Massagetae of the classics, pressed onward Northwest, thro' the north of Germany, and thro' Holsten into Denmark and Sweden - and to those the name of Germans in ancient history exclusively belongs... #
The collected works of Samuel Taylor Coleridge. 5, Lectures 1808
Lecture 2, p.71.
http://www.amazon.com/Biographia-Literaria-Collected-Coleridge-Biographical/dp/0691018618/ref=sr_1_2'ie=UTF8&qid=1334527037&sr=8-2

British Israel sources explain the name Massagetae to be compounded from Manasseh and Gad.
This is not far-fetched since elements from both Gad and Manasseh were in the same region as that of the Massagetae.
The very name Goth is a Biblical Hebrew alternative pronunciation for the name Gad.

Israelite Tribes were in this region and so were other groups. Names of different peoples were switched around frequently due to one nation having dwelt in the area previously, or having been conquered by another, or accepted rulership from another, etc, and then moving on merging with other peoples and bestowing the borrowed name on them as well, etc.
I am not exaggerating. This confusion of and interchanging of names is the rule rather than the exception in those regions. In addition different peoples had similar names and they often met up with each other and their names were switched around either in their own tongues or in the reports of foreigners.
The forces of Gog were in the region. A clan of Reuben was also known as Gog!  The Goths and Massagetae were identified with Gog. The Ten Tribes were also equated with Gog and Magog.
See our article:
The "Red" Jews and the Lost Tribes
http://britam.org/redjews.html

Anyway it seems that the terms Massagetae and Goth were applied to different groups. One section was of Israelite origin and the other not. Those who were not were probably descended from Gog and in the future will help form the forces of Gog and Magog.
http://britam.org/Ezekiel36to40.html
A search engine query indicates that aspects of Gog and Magog have been discussed about 120 times on the Brit-Am web-site.
In general we identify Gog and Magog with Russia and nations from the east including Korea which was once part of a kingdom known as Gogarei and appears to have been referred to as Gog in Tibetan records.

We do not think the Russians in general are descended from the Ten Tribes but rather from non-Israelite nations.
Nevertheless, as shown in our book, The Tribes, a good portion of the Ten Tribes did at some stage or other sojourn in the regions of Russia and its neighbors.
Very many descendants of the Ten Tribes  as well as of the Jews may have been assimilated amongst the Russian and related peoples.
Somehow or other they will all return as described in Isaiah ch.66.

18 ...It shall be that I will gather all nations and tongues; and they shall come and see My glory. 19 I will set a sign among them; and those among them who escape I will send to the nations: to Tarshish and Pul and Lud, who draw the bow, and Tubal and Javan, to the coastlands afar off who have not heard My fame nor seen My glory. And they shall declare My glory among the Gentiles. 20 Then they shall bring all your brethren for an offering to the Lord out of all nations, on horses and in chariots and in litters, on mules and on camels, to My holy mountain Jerusalem,' says the Lord, 'as the children of Israel bring an offering in a clean vessel into the house of the Lord. 21 And I will also take some of them for priests and Levites,' says the Lord [Isaiah 66:18-21].







3. New Mini-Article.
Well, Tickle Me Pink!
Defendants of the Samaritans Criticize the Brit-Am Approach!!!
http://www.britam.org/samaritans.html#Defendants
Some Headings:
[1. The Tanaach in our possession is the word of the Almighty.
[2. Mesopotamian records show that herds of lions in those days did roam the area and on occasion entered human
settlements spreading terror.
[3. Karaites Vary and May Have Said Anything!
[4. Ernest L. Martin is not the only authority on the Samaritans!
[5. Unbroken Matriarchal Lineages'''
[6. Judah and Joseph are Different!
[7. To sum up, the Bible gives the Final Word!







The Tribes - 4th Edition Full Cover Spread.
http://www.britam.org/TribesCover.html





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