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Brit-Am Now no. 1341: The Lost Ten Tribes of Israel
May 14 2009, 21 Iyar 5769
Contents:
1. Reply to a Defender of Conspiracy
Theories
2. Question on the Ancient
Greeks, Sparta, and the Tribe of Simeon
3. Question on the Transport of Israelite Exiles overseas in
Philistine
and Phoenician Ships
4. Question Concerning Beowulf and Israelite Associations
5. Local Newspaper mentions "Bronze Age Atlantis"
1. Reply to a Defender of Conspiracy
Theories
Thomas Malloy wrote:
Dear Yair;
I know you don't like CT's. I agree that Lyndon LaRouche is a nut. I also
realize that religious Jews don't believe that HaSatan is a sentient entity.
However, it's clear to us that he is the fallen arch angel Lucifer. He hates
all G-d fearers. As I understand it, Hitler and his cohorts killed 14,000,000
people of whom 6,000,000 were Jews. It was a blood sacrifice, an oblation to
his god.
As for the Illuminati being non existent, check out the Lucius trust, it's
recognized as a NGO by the UN. It used to be called the Lucifer Publishing
Co., that name was a public relations man's night mare, Lucius is a much more
innocuous name. It published a series of books written by Alice Bailey.
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Brit-Am Reply:
"Illuminati" means "Enlightened". Historically there was such an organization
in Bavaria (Germany) in 1776. It was a secret or semi-secret society. The aims
seem to have been to encourage freethinking liberal
attitudes. In 1784 it was outlawed in Bavaria along with all other secret
societies. There is no proof
that since then it did not disappear.
Apart from that however secret societies DO exist.
In Europe before WW2 there were devil-worshipping groups who were pro-Nazi.
These groups believed in human sacrifice. Influential people belonged to them.
The Nazi movement itself received input from secret groups. Such groups also
exist nowadays.
Not so long ago a secret pedophile organization that indulged in abuse and
murder of children was uncovered in
Belgium and shown to involve very many important people.
Secret societies exist and in some cases can be important.
One also finds elites controlling countries.
In Israel much of the economy is run by about 80 families (of whom 18 are
especially dominant)
who also strongly influence the media.
Similar claims may perhaps be made regarding important determinative sectors in
the US.
In addition there exist secret or implied-but-not-uttered doctrines that
determine policy.
Arab oil money is used to work towards the destruction of the Jewish people not
only in
Israel but all over the world. This money ties in with strong monies interests
in America and elsewhere.
The Vatican may or may not have a secret agenda.
Germany ruling circles as well as the Japanese may be playing a double game.
Obama may have been nurtured for decades by interested parities who want to
influence the USA.
Leading politicians in the USA have been receiving funding for decades from the
Arabs.
The list goes one.
All of these known-tendencies or strongly-indicated possibilities are worth
examining.
[I personally now am inclined to think that all these elements may be less
important than it would seem.
WYSIWYG (pronounced "wiziwig" standing for "What You See Is What You Get")
meaning popular sentiment
is what determines matters and all the other factors follow after it. The other
factors can however make a difference
at crucial stages. They are mainly marginal influences that can have an
over-the-threshold effect
at key moments.]
Conspiracy Theory as we know it is against the Anglos and against the Jews.
It demonizes them.
Defenders of Conspiracy Theories often use a semantic word game to defend their
nefarious intentions.
We have spoken of this before.
The Hamas Consitution actually incorporates a Conspiracy Theory claiming that
Jews are working to undermine humanity
and take over the world. This is Conspiracy Theory as we know it.
It is the same CT advocated by reprobates everywhere.
It is anti-Jewish, anti-British, and anti-American.
It is a bunch of lies emanating from low-lifes.
It pollutes right-wing thinking and emasculates otherwise respectable positive
commentators
who allow themselves to be infected by it.
Anecdotes of Arab Belief in Conspiracy Theories:
Israel still looks good, warts and all
by Greg Sheridan
Extract:
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25399713-25132,00.html
But for the purposes of this analysis, a meeting Indyk describes in 1998
between Clinton and Crown Prince Abdullah of Saudi Arabia is most instructive.
This was at the height of the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Indyk writes:
Abdullah leaned across the table and explained to Clinton in a hushed voice that
he had information that Monica Lewinsky was Jewish and part of a Mossad plot to
bring the president down because of his efforts to help the Palestinians. He
told the president that he intended to share this intelligence with senators he
would meet after lunch in an effort to help forestall his impeachment.
This anecdote echoes one of a generation earlier told in Henry Kissinger's
memoir, in which Kissinger holds a formal meeting with a Saudi ruler who tells
him the world is beset by a global communist conspiracy, which is a mere part of
the broader global Jewish conspiracy.
The Indyk and Kissinger anecdotes, each astonishing in its way, confirm the
pervasiveness of Arab anti-Semitism and that it is not wholly a construct of
Arab regimes for internal political purposes but is to some extent genuinely
believed in Arab societies.
Note:
The above two examples are actually relatively mild compared to the Conspiracy
Fantasies regularly promoted by Arab Media.
2. Question on the
Anceint
Greeks, Sparta, and the Tribe of Simeon
From: Nathan Proud <nproud@gmail.com>
Subject: Simeon in the wilderness
Hello Yair,
I'm pretty certain you've read Steve Collins' books. I'm currently writing
about possible Israelite movements before and during the Exodus and I'd like to
get your opinion. I know you focus mainly on the Assyrian exile itself, but
what is your opinion concerning Simeon in the wilderness? Their population
drops by 63% between the first and second census, so Steve contends they left
the camp and went to Greece and founded Sparta. He references one of the
Apocryphal books that shows the Spartans/Lacedaemonians as being related to
Judah and the high priest confirming that.
Considering the Achaeans, a.k.a. Danaoi of Danaus, brother of Aegyptus, arrived
there while Israel was under Hyksos rule and/or shortly before the Exodus, it
seems to make sense that many Simeonites fled there to join their brothers in
Greece after their dispute with Moses.
It seems to make further sense to say that the Dorians who arrived around 1200
BC were another wave of Danites. One source called the Dorian invasion the
"return of the sons of Heracles"
http://www.publicbookshelf.com/public_html/The_Story_of_the_Greatest
_Nations
_and_the_Worlds_Famous_Events_Vol_1/dorianin_beb.html
Historians get baffled by the ancient invasions and why there is little
difference between the peoples involved. It makes sense to me to consider they
were all Israelites.
Do you have an opinion on this?
Nathan Proud
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Brit-Am Reply:
This matter is dealt with in part in our book
"Lost Israelite Identity. The
Hebrew Ancestry of Celtic Races"
http://www.britam.org/Identity.html
This work at present is out of print but we may be publishing an updated
version soon online. Stay tuned.
As for the Tribe of Simeon and Sparta.
This is one of the points in which we disagree with Steven Collins.
In principle, there are sources suggesting that Israelites settled overseas
before the Assyrian Exile. We however prefer to avoid
these considerations wherever other explanations are possible.
Walter Baucum however has written on this subject:
"Bronze Age Atlantis.The International Nautical Empire of the Sea Peoples"
http://www.britam.org/baucumcover.html
The Sages said that the diminution in the numbers of Simeon was due to their
involvement in the Zimri affair.
Zimri the son of Salu from the Tribe of Simeon publicly copulated with a
Midianite princess (Numbers 25:6, 14).
As a result there was a plague in which 24,000 of the Children of Israel
perished.
This decline was attributed at least in part to the plague occasioned by the
action of Zimri.
Other explanations may be possible.
See:
Simeon and Levi: Similar but still Different.
By Yaakov Deutsch
http://www.netivot-shalom.org.il/parshaeng/vayechi2.php
##The tribe itself
suffers from a drastic decline in numbers: from the first census in the desert,
in which the tribe numbered 59,300 (Numbers 1:23), the tribe shrinks to a
population of only 22,200 (Numbers 26:14) at the time of the second census, a
decline of more than 37,000!##
We also think that Asia Minor (present-day Turkey) and Greece were conquered by
Danites and other Israelites at one stage though the actual numbers of Hebrews
who remained in the area was small.
The Spartans claimed to be related to the Jews due to a common descent from
Abraham.
The Romans also suggested a similar relationship.
This is found in the Book of Maccabeens and in the history of Josephus.
In our opinion a leading element amongst the early Spartans and Romans came from
Esau (i.e. from
Edom) brother of Jacob and therefore descended from Abraham.
See:
Ephraimite Criteria
http://www.britam.org/criteria.html
Brit-Am Criteria
for determining Israelite Origin at the Individual and National Levels
http://www.britam.org/Questions/QuesCriteria.html
3. Question on the Transport of
Israelite Exiles overseas in
Philistine and Phoenician Ships
Paul wrote:
Hi Yair,
I have a question from your article titled "The Lost TEn Tribes in Prophecy"
Part 2, it was posted on nobsnews.org previously.
In it you wrote"
"The Lord GOD hath sworn by his holiness, that, lo, the days shall come upon
you, that he will take you away with hooks, and your posterity with
fishhooks." (Amos 4:2)
That is how it is translated in the King James BUT The word translated as
"HOOKS" in Hebrew is "Tzinot" meaning fleets of ships or "great ships" and the
word translated as FISHHOOKS in Hebrew is "Sirot-dugah" meaning
"fishing-boats". "
Now, I looked up hooks and fishing hooks in Strong's Concordance and in Brown
Driver Briggs, and it only says: hooks, barbs, meaning dubious, shield
buckler, fishing hook, cauldron, etc.
Can you point me to some type of resource that would show the literal Hebrew
meaning of "Tzinot" and "Sirot-dugah" that would show that it means "fleets of
ships, or great ships" and "fishing boats"?
Thanks very much for your time Yair, and great work
Paul
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Brit-Am Reply:
This analysis was first propounded in our work
our book "Lost Israelite Identity. The Hebrew Ancestry of Celtic Races"
http://www.britam.org/Identity.html
This work at present is out of print but we may be publishing an updated
version soon online.
The translation we proposed was valid. Nevetheless new information suggests a
possible modification.
[Amos 4:2] THE LORD GOD HATH SWORN BY HIS HOLINESS, THAT, LO, THE DAYS SHALL
COME UPON YOU, THAT HE WILL TAKE YOU AWAY WITH HOOKS [Hebrew "tsinot" i.e. Large Ships], AND YOUR
POSTERITY WITH FISHHOOKS [Hebrew "sirot-dugah" i.e. Fishing Boats or Boats shaped liked a fish and named "Fish-Boats"].
We understood this verse to be complementary to other verses and sources showing
that part of the Ten Tribes were destined to be exiled
in Phoenician and Philistine (Minoan) vessels in the service of Assyria over the
sea to Spain and the West. New findings have since confirmed this conclusion.
Rabbinical scholars (Abarbanel, Metsudat Tsion) explained that tsinot means a
type of ship.
The word "Tsi" means a large ship. [In Modern Hebrew it means "fleet of ships"].
"Tsinot" in my private opinion is a plural of "Tsi". I base this opinion on an
analysis of the passage.
Elsewhere in the Bible the plural of "tsi" is "tsiyim" (Numbers 24:24 Daniel
11:30).
"tsiyim" however is masculine.
As an inanimate object "tsi" could be rendered as either masculine or feminine (Iben
Ezra).
In Amos 4:2 for euphonic and contextual reasons it has to be feminine.
Normally the feminine form might be rendered as "tsiot" but the option of
inserting an "n" sound (again for euphonic reasons) also exists.
And so we have "tsinot".
Unfortunately this explanation so far only relies on my own opinion but
(assuming we are correct)
God willing confirmatory evidence will become available.
As for "sirot-dugah" this is translated as "fish-hooks" in the KJV where "dugah"
means "fish" and "sirot"
is said to mean "hooks" i.e. literally "hooks-[for]-fish". Some Rabbinical
commentaries would agree with this.
Nevertheless, Targum Yehonatan, Rashi, Radak, and others agree that it means
"fishing-boats".
In the Mishah "dugit" means a type of fishing-boat.
Alternately:
In Cyprus in Roman times a certain type of very large ship was known as a fish
boat
because of its shape [Phoenician ships were also shaped to resemble a fish].
Cyprus had once been under Israelite control and for much of its history was
largely Phoenician in
culture.
On-line references:
The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia
http://www.studylight.org/enc/isb/view.cgi?number=T8078
tsi (Numbers 24:24; Ezekiel 30:9; Isaiah 33:21), tsi 'addir, "gallant ship";
Daniel 11:30, tsiyim Kittim, "ships of Kittim.'
English-Hebrew DICTIONARY
http://www.marghalit.com/Dictionary/ENGHEB_1.HTM
Sirah = boat
Mediterranean ship types
http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~catshaman/15Sailors/05sailors12.htm
Compares ancient Mediterranean ships (Phoenicians, Cretan, Greek etc) with
those depicted on Scandinavian
rocks.
The first picture shows Cretan ships with the image of a fish on their prow.
The ships of Crete were those of Minoas. We will show that the Philistines used
these ships and that the terms Crete,
Minoa, Philistia are interchangeable.
Amos condemns the Phoenicians (i.e. Trye Amos 1:9) and the Philistines (i.e.
Gaza Amos 1:6, Ashekelon, Ashdod, Ekron, THE PHILISTINES Amos 1:8) for turning Israelite Exile over to Edom.
The Phoenicians and Philistines used their ships to transfer Israelite Exiles
overseas.
4. Question Concerning Beowulf and
Israelite Associations
Robert wrote:
I have been working on an engineering degree. I am currently
taking care of the prerequisites. I have been in a debate over the origins of
the poem, Beowulf. I cannot find very much info on the Brit Am site concerning
this Topic, and I am somewhat skeptical of the conventional explanations. I
have a certain feeling that this work, Beowulf is a very important work and
has a level of significance to the lost ten tribes due to the apparent fact
that it predates christianity and comes from a region that has been identified
as Israelite?
What is the opinion of Brit Am concerning this work? if any, Thank you, Robert
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Brit-Am Reply:
Shalom,
Somewhere amongst my papers I have the photocopy of a Ph.D. thesis drawing
parallels
between the thought-processes in Beowulf and Jewish religious thought.
Going from memory I did not find it particularly convincing.
We did however intend to write an article on this subject and one day may get
around to it.
The examples given seemed to be too general to draw specific conclusions.
The struggle between good and evil, the evil impulse inside of us reflected by
an external enemy, etc, for all I know have a universal application and may be found in several
cultures.
Beowulf dates from ca. the 600s CE or later.
Beowulf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beowulf
##In the poem, Beowulf, a hero of the Geats, battles three antagonists:
Grendel, who has been attacking the mead hall in Denmark called Heorot and its
inhabitants; Grendel's mother; and an unnamed dragon. The last battle takes
place later in life, after returning to Geatland (modern southern Sweden), where
Beowulf has become king. In the final battle, Beowulf is fatally wounded. After
his death he is buried in a barrow in Geatland by his retainers.##
Based on memory:
It is the earliest Anglo-Saxon poem known to us but nevertheless is quite
sophisticated and suggests
a body of Literature that must have preceded it.
Beowulf is a great poem both for its content matter and its style.
The style in my opinion shows a definite tendency to imitate Homer or later
Greek and Roman writers
who wrote in the style of Homer. There are also details in the story that show
an acquaintanceship
with Classical Writings.
The author of Beowulf also refers to "Old Testament" themes (such as Cain son of
Adam and Eve and the first
murderer) and was influenced by the Book of Daniel and possibly also by other
Jewish writings.
He ignores the "New Testament" and no Christian influence is evident.
[That does not mean that the author was not a devout Christian but it is
interesting.]
The vocabulary of Beowulf is a northern Anglian dialect related to Anglo-Sxon
but different from it.
Many of the words are similar to Hebrew but the same may be said of Anglo-Saxon
tongues in general.
A study of Beowulf from a Brit-Am Ten Tribes perspective is probably not going
to add much that is substantive
to our overall understanding but it could help to reinforce a general
impression.
This also could tie in with our study of the Khazars.
The Khazars were of Hebrew origins and part of the Ten Tribes.
They eventually became Jewish but before doing so there was an intermediate
phase in which Jewish influence
was felt.
The Khazars were concentrated in southern Russia but offshoots were also to be
found
in Scandinavia and in the early Anglo-Saxon ambit.
The Khazars were related to the Anglo-Saxons.
The influences felt by the Khazars must also have extended to other peoples as
well.
perhaps this is reflected by Beowulf?
5. Local Newspaper mentions "Bronze Age
Atlantis"
The Times News, Twin Falls, Idaho, USA
Bronze Age Atlantis.
ATLANTIS
Commercial empire, not romantic Eden, Gooding author writes
Gooding resident Walter Baucum will hold a book signing new scholarly book,
"Bronze Age Atlantis: The Internalional Nautical Empire of the Sea Peoples"
(Russell -Davis Publications, $30).
The author will sign copies from 2 to 4 p.m. Saturday at Hastings Books Music &
Videos in
Twin Falls.
Baucum's book rethinks what he calls a sensationalized and romanticized
version of Plato's Atlantis. "The real riddle is not where the realm of
Atlantis lay," he wrote in a statement promoting the work, "nor when its island
capital sank beneath the sea, but rather that almost no writer has found, or
even looked for, the key that the text of the tale itself repeatedly offers: the
story as told by Egyptian priests to Solon, who brought it back to Greece, was
derived from original records contained in ancient Egyptian temple inscriptions
and papyrus texts."
Baucum writes about Atlantis as a vast oceanic maritime trading empire based
on metals, and he supplements the account with extensive footnotes, glossary,
bibliography, index, maps and illustrations. He aims to give readers a better
understanding of the Bronze Age, the people who controlled it, their island
capital and the reasons for its collapse in 1200 B.C.--not thousands of years
earlier.
"Bronze Age Atlantis
The International Nautical Empire of the Sea Peoples"
http://www.britam.org/baucumcover.html
Note: This work also deals with Israelite settlement in the West
and Hebrew contacts with European areas before the Exile from Assyria.
Even if one disagrees with this the evidence is of value and acceptable
concerning an Israelite Presence in the said areas. We just move the dates back.
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