"Brit-Am Now"-517
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:02:12 +0200

"Brit-Am Now"-517
1. Athol Bloomer: Brit-am Rose
2. Arabs
(a) Arab Slave-Farming
(b) Arabs a Mix; President Bush from my home-town
3. Quotations
4. Is George Bush really Gog of "Gog and Magog" and Company?
5. Letter from France

1. Athol Bloomer: Brit- am Rose
Dear Yair,

I can't remember if I wrote to you about this before. I really like the 13 petalled Rose that you have chosen for Brit-am. It is a wonderful symbol which both religious Jews and Christians can relate to. I also applaud your policy of not getting into theological debate as this would not be appropriate for an organisation that is for both Jews and Christians. Their are plenty of other groups for Jewish and Christian dialogue which I believe is important but it is not the 'charism' of Brit-am. Obviously our particular faiths will influence our understanding but I think we all can learn of the others position in regard to Brit-am issues without feeling it necessary to enter into debates about who is right. May Hashem guide and bless you for your wonderful work in this 'apostolate'. We all await that wonderful day when all with glorify HaShem in universal unity. Jacob and Esau must be reconciled and the late Lubavitch Rebbe said that he believed Esau is now ready for this journey. Personally I think part of this reconciliation of Jacob and Esau will reveal that amongst the nations of Esau (the Western Christian nations) will be found the bulk of the Ten Tribes (Ephraim). I suspect that once Judah and Ephraim (representing all the 10 tribes) are united as Jacob then Esau and Jacob will be reconciled and which will lead to all nations especially Ishmael in to a universal peace where God will be all in all and the Divine Will (Ratzon) will reign on earth.
Cheers Athol

2. Arabs
(a) Arab Slave-Farming
From: "Taylor, John (JH) (Solvents)"
Subject: RE: "Brit-Am Now"-516
re item 7. Steve Collins: African Slaves in Arabia

The book white gold describes how Arab sultans would like to mate European slaves with blacks. The mulatto children were easily controlled as they did not identify with either group and looked to the sultan for identity
(b) Arabs a Mix; President Bush from my home-town
From: Stephen Ray Hale
Subject: RE: "Brit-Am Now"-516
re "Brit-Am Now"-515 item 7. Steve Collins: African Slaves in Arabia

Dear Yair,

Concerning the above, what about the fact that the blacks and the Egyptians (non Arab ones) were children of Ham, and Ham was the grandfather of the Canaanites. It is possible that since the Arabs are a mix between Ishmael and Egyptian (as is some of the Children of Israel through the slaves of Leah and Rachel - I think) the so called black genes might really be common to both black and the original Egyptians.

Concerning Bush, in that I am living in his home town in Midland, Texas. There are Christians here who are concerned that he might provoke God if he assists in "partitioning" the Holy Land in order to provide for two states, Israel and Palestine. I am a bit concerned myself, in that I voted for him (because of my son Jonathan being in Iraq) and I was not aware that he was going to pursue the so-called roadmap concepts.

Stephen Hale from Midland, Texas

3. Quotations
"The task is, not so much to see what no one has yet seen; but to think what nobody has thought, about that which everybody sees." Erwin Schroedinger (1887-1961)

"We have now sunk to a depth at which the re-statement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. " George Orwell

4. Is George Bush really Gog of "Gog and Magog" and Company?
Amnon wrote:
From: "."

Dov Bar Leiv joins the increasing number who believe that Bush is Gog ("Joj") & the Japhetic USA is Magog! http://www.yearsofawe.blogspot.com/

Can Britam publicise its opinion on this? Are the US our Israelitish kith & kin, or our Magogian Japhetic enemies?

I skimmed through the article you noted. It looks interesting.
Did you know that Brit-Am also may have had an unconscious prescience of the Tsunami?
About two weeks before the event we sent out the following commentary:

This Psalm has been interpreted as giving praise to the Almighty who reveals Himself through the wonders of nature.
The Radak explains it in an allegorical manner: The Radak suggest that the MIGHTY are Israel, The Gentiles are represented by THE CEDARS OF LEBANON (cf. Ezekiel 31:3) and by the Mountains (Isaiah 54:10). The destruction of the pagans is represented by the action of a great flood of water or to destruction wrought by the action of water. The Psalm indicates the final war of Gog and Magog when those nations who do not recognize the God of Israel will war against Israel and meet their downfall. It may be that The Gentile Nations are referred to as Cedars of Lebanon since in the future they are destined to be ruled from Israel represented by Lebanon.

Regarding Gog and Magog you should see our commentary to the Book of Ezekiel.
Your question however is interesting from an historical point of view.
The Goths in Early Medieval thought were identified as either the Lost tribes of Israel and as Gog and Magog. Later Christian (mainly German) writings identified the Lost Ten Tribes as being identical with Gog and Magog. A good portion of the Lost Ten Tribes did sojourn for some time in areas from which Gog and Magog is destined to emerge. I personally think that President Bush is basically a good man who will not betray Israel but I have been wrong in the past and even if he is not our friend he is not Gog or Magog.
Britain, the USA, and related nations contain the majority of the Lost Ten Tribes.
They may also contain other elements and these could achieve dominance.
On the other hand the Biblical record shows that there may be no shortage of evildoers and potential traitors amongst the Israelites themselves.
I (most modestly) think that responsible commentators and thinkers would do well to read what Brit-Am has to say on a subject before speaking.

5. Letter from France
Subject: Re: "Brit-Am Now"-512
Shalom Yair
Concerning point 3 "christian reconciliation"! in my small understanding, myself was raised as "christian" in France. Today after a 40 years journey through prayer , and inquirements I came across different web site including yours and find out what I was asking myself since my youth. That my true identity is not to be a french, much more to be part of the Lost Tribes of Israel... I just want to say that whoever come to believe in the G-d of Israel; must either recognize his identity as one of the lost tribes of Israel or to "join" the community of Israel, according to the Torah teaching.
The point now is that the House of Judah and the House of Israel recognize one another and become reconciled before the great last day. We believe that our brethren from Judah will accept us as their true brethren coming from among the nations and we, will be humble enough to accept the fact that they have carried the oracles of old through the centuries. Both have to join according to the prophecy from Jeremiah. Thanks Yair for the good job and information you send across the world.
Shalom from France

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