"Brit-Am Now"-854
1. Orjan Svensson: Gad mainly in Sweden
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3. Steve Coneglan: Gad, Israel, Scotland, Succoth, and the Thistle
4. New Zealand: A Maori-Indian (Cush) Connection?
5. Robert Jones: Ancient Crete and the Tribe of Dan

1. Orjan Svensson: Gad mainly in Sweden
Orjan Svensson <>
Subject: Re: "Brit-Am Now"-853
#3. Steve Coneglan: Gad, Succoth and Scotland

I agree that a part of Gad could very well be
prominent in Scotland, due to this evidence.
However, I think that the main part of Gad resides in
Sweden as evidenced in "The Tribes".
The close connections historically between Sweden and
Scotland could also reflect that a portion of Gad also
resides in Scotland.
But the main part of Gad I believe is to be found in
Sweden. The Swedes also proved to have great ability
to defend themselves historically in several battles
with Russia, for example the great battle at Narva
where Sweden won military victory against Russia.
However Sweden lost some battles also, most notably I
think at Poltava, which maybe marked the end of
Sweden's status as a local super power in the early

3. Steve Coneglan: Gad, Israel, Scotland, Succoth, and the Thistle
From: Steve Coneglan <>
Subject: Thistle in Israel

Dear Yair,

Further to the Scots being the tribe of Gad, I thought I might supply a few links with photographic evidence of the thistle as it is found in Israel today. This is the plant that Gideon used to teach the elders and men of Succoth / Scot a lesson (Judges 8:16).

Note the colour of the flower. It is the same colour as Gad's tribal stone, the Hebrew leshem. This stone - as I have long contended - is the same as the Greek amethustos, which is either the amethyst or the violet sapphire. Here is a relevant link:

Another interesting fact is that the Scottish Design Awards for 2004 recognised the architects who designed residential property for AMA Homes. They won the award for their apartment complex in Edinburgh that you can access at the following link:

Somehow, these Scots seem to know subconsciously who they are! I have no idea how they came upon the name Succoth Heights, but there it is in Edinburgh, the capital of Scotland. Maybe some of the Scottish readers might be able to help us out here.

Stephen Coneglan

4. New Zealand: A Maori-Indian (Cush) Connection?
Hindu scholar finds similarities with Maori culture
Sunday January 28, 11:25 AM

Auckland, Jan 28 (IANS) Many similarities can be found between Sanskrit, the classical language of India, and Maori, the language and tradition of the indigenous people of New Zealand, according to an Indian scientist.

In fact, some Hindu cultural facets are more similar to Maori than most people realise, says senior scientist Dr Guna Magesan, who moved to New Zealand from Nilgiri in India in 1988 to complete a PhD on soil science at Massey University.

Next month, Magesan will share his Kiwi experience at the World Hindu Conference to be held in India, where he has been asked to talk about what it is like being a Hindu living in New Zealand, according to Daily Post newspaper.

Similarities between Hindu and Maori customs and language are making living in New Zealand an easier transition for some Indian immigrants, said Magesan.

'There are at least 185 Sanskrit and other Indian language words similar to the Maori language. For example, 'mana' means pride or self-respect,' he said.

The Indian scientist has written books on Indian culture and the similarities between Hindu and Maori.

Magesan has also encouraged his son Murali, 11, to learn the Maori language at school and be a member of the kapa haka group, a contemporary performance style of the Maori people.

5. Robert Jones: Ancient Crete and the Tribe of Dan
From: Robert Jones <>
Subject: Minoans and Israelites

Mr. Davidiy,

I just finished with David Rohl's book A Test of Time.  Something that caught my attention was his descriptions of the burials of Avaris.  One thing I found very interesting, was the extensive Minoan pottery found in the various Hebrew tombs.

The "Neopalatial" or  Middle Period of Crete generally corresponds to the Asiatic immigration or "Asiatic invasion" of Egypt (2100-1500 BC).  The island of Crete during this time was characterized as very affluent, the development of small towns around the main palaces, large storage facilities, and metal workshops.  The most interesting description of the burials, was a similarity to those at Avaris.

You have mentioned that the tribe of Dan at one point had moved from Crete to Argos, Greece and in many places the name of the tribe of Dan is found on this island.  So, I don't think it to be huge leap to see Crete and the Minoan society of this period as merely an extension of Avaris and the Hebrews.

 The need for metals, and other natural resources during this expansion in Egypt in most cases had to come from abroad.  Crete initially was established as a port or trading post for the Asiatic Egyptians and Hebrews and later became a major trade center for the 13th, 14th and 15th Dynasties.

With the rise of the 18th Dynasty and the Egyptians retaking Lower Egypt, trade with Crete disappears.  The pottery they find during this time, was from Cyprus.  Cyprus appears to be a Philistine island during this time period.  They had ethnic and close ties with the Egyptians so the alliance as a trading partner with Cyprus was natural.

The island of Crete continues to thrive to a degree until it is partially destroyed by the eruption of Thera.  The natural question is left, did the ruling class of Avaris seek refuge in Knossos Crete?  Was there a large Hebrew contingent on the island, and did the tribe of Dan facilitate this Diaspora from Egypt.

There seems to be a lose connection, I'm wondering if there is any archaeological evidence in Crete that refers back to the Hebrews in Egypt?

Rob Jones