"Brit-Am Now"- 428

Contents:
1. Amerindians, Miccosukee Tribe, and Israel?
2. Misses the Point of Biblical Place Names
3. Influence of Welshmen in Utah?
4. Norse vrs Angles?
5. Query on Germany
6. HOW JEWISH IS BULGARIA?
7. Brit-Am Migrations and DNA

1. Amerindians, Miccosukee Tribe, and Israel?
>Shalom -
>please can you help? I am trying to find out if there is a link to the
>Hebrew tribes and the Indian tribe of Miccosukee Indians in Naples Florida
>. We met the son of the chief of the Miccosukees, (one time a part of the
>Seminole Tribe) who is interested in these ideas.
>shalom,
>ron & jean

Answer:
I do not know anything about these people and very little about the
Amerindians in general but there are people on our list
who and perhaps they can help.

2. Misses the Point of Biblical Place Names

>OK.  I read the list, thoroughly.
>
>What are you trying to say?  Maybe I missed the point somehow.
>
>JDH

Answer:
There is no point per se. The Biblical Place Names Feature highlights is a
phenomenon that many people find interesting
and some do not. Some consider this curiosity to be evidence in its own right
while others dismiss it.
It is a take-it-or-leave-it item of interest.
We never said it necessarily proves anything.
If you want evidence that can be grappled with
then our Biblical Proofs and our Historical Facts
provide plenty.
In my opinion some of our proofs taken together
are irrefutable.

3. Influence of Welshmen in Utah?
Subject: RE: Biblical Names-25: Utah
Hi Yair

I was wondering whether this was because approximately 20% of the population
of Utah is of Welsh descent mainly due to the large Mormon population?
All the best
Rob

4. Norse vrs Angles?
From: Erik
Subject: Regarding Brit-Am issue 426

Shalom Mr. Davidiy,

Mr. Svensson, who wrote about Hod and its possible
connection to Heid, forgot to mention that "Hod"
(pronounced with a long O-sound) was a Norse god, the
MAJESTY of winter (though he was not commonly called the
majesty of winter, he was). Svensson mentioned that "HOD"
means "majesty" in Hebrew.
Hod was blind, and he was tricked by Loki into shooting an
arrow laced with mistletoe against his brother, Baldr or
Baldur, the god of light, joy and life.

I would also like to point out that the Angles and Saxons
were NOT Scandinavian. They were Germanic, but not
Scandinavian.
Someone wrote that these German tribes were of Scandinavian
descent. They were closely related to Scandinavians, but
that is not quite the same.
Also, I'd like to point out that a lot of Norse Norwegians
and Danes reached the British isles with the purpose of
being farmers there. But, the Anglian/Saxon ruler at the
time did not accept that, and started what can only be
called ethnic cleansing of his "cousin" peoples on the
isles.
Someone wrote that the Anglians and Saxons saw themselves
as  more "civilized" than the Norse peoples, but it is
clear to me that they were not. The Norse were in many ways
quite advanced. Their ship technology was the most advanced
on earth at the time, and it was from the Norse that we got
the modern Western court system. Also, it is said that
Columbus' maps are based strongly on ancient Norse accounts
recorded in various works by Greeks, Romans etc., and later
by Snorri Sturluson. Apart from this, European trade would
NOT have been the same without the Norse, and English would
be 200+ words "poorer".

Regards,
Erik

5. Query on Germany

>From: Peter Kleyheeg
>Greetings to you
>
>Thank you for your web-site, as I went through it I found that Germany was
>not registered, do you have any info on that?
>
>many thanks  peter.

Answer:
Germany is discussed mainly in our works, "Ephraim" and "Joseph".
In general we feel that at once stage there were many people of Israelite
descent
but most of them left by 100 to 150 years ago.
At present most Germans are not Israelites and those few who are e
submerged culturally
and in  social-psychologically amongst the others.


6. HOW JEWISH IS BULGARIA?
>DEAR SIR,
>                     HOW JEWISH IS BULGARIA? I UNDERSTAND THAT JEWS HAVE
> BEEN THERE SINCE 100-200 CE. WHAT PERCENTAGE OF BULGARIANS ARE JEWISH
> GENETICALLY? WHAT IS THE PROPORTION OF JEWISH TO NON JEWISH GENES?
>
>                          SINCERELY,
>
>                               JOHN NEWMAN

Answer:
Jews and Israelites have been in Bulgaria since the earliest times.

Antiquities of the Jews - Book IX
CHAPTER 1.
4. And when the king [Jehoshaphat] had brought his army back to Jerusalem,
he betook himself to celebrate festivals, and offer sacrifices, and this
for many days. And indeed, after this destruction of their enemies, and
when it came to the ears of the foreign nations, they were all greatly
aftrighted, as supposing that God would openly fight for him hereafter. So
Jehoshaphat from that time lived in great glory and splendor, on account of
his righteousness and his piety towards God. He was also in friendship with
Ahab's son, who was king of Israel; and he joined with him in the building
of ships that were to sail to Pontus, and the traffic cities of Thrace
<http://reluctant-messenger.com/josephusA09.htm#EndNote_ANT_9.3b>(3) but he
failed of his gains, for the ships were destroyed by being so great [and
unwieldy]; on which account he was no longer concerned about shipping. And
this is the history of Jehoshaphat, the king of Jerusalem.

Bulgaria was part of ancient Thrace settled by Tiras of Japhet, by
Edomites, and by Canaanites and also
by Cimmerians, Scythians, Dacians, and Gutae many of whom were of Israelite
descent.
The area was also settled by Greeks and Romans, Goths , and Avars.
<<Around the mid-7th century the Slavs came from the north across the
Danube and reached as far as the Black Sea and the Adriatic. They were
followed by the Bulgarians of Khan Asparouh.>>
Bulgaria protected its 50,000 Jews in WW11 even though it was an ally of
Germany and under pressure
to turn the Jews over to be killed by the Nazis.
Early Bulgarian Christians kept many Hebrew customs and laws.
Anti-Semitism in Bulgaria compared to other European countries was never strong
but  it did exist  and  it still does now  and may be increasing.
see
http://www.shubg.net%252FFakulteti%252FFHN%252FKT%252Fsteffiles%252FAntisem_BG%252520GB.doc
Archimandrite Pavel Stefanov,
"Bulgarians and Jews throughout history,"
Religion in Eastern Europe, XXII, 2002, December, No 6, pp. 1-11

<<The ethnical name 'Bulgars' is mentioned for the very first time in the
5th century. They were a conglomerate of tribes of Iranian descent who were
later turkisized like the Huns, Avars and Magyars. They were mounted nomads
before they settled down and formed their first state, known to the
Byzantine chronists as 'Great Bulgaria', in the steppes between the Azov
sea and the Kuban river in the 6th century. One of the Bulgar tribes headed
by Asparoukh fled these regions due to strong Khazar pressure and set up a
new state in the Balkans in 681.
<<When Judaism was declared official religion in Khazaria between 800 and
809, some of the minor peoples in the khaganate, including the so called
'black Bulgars,' rebelled. They called on the Balkan Bulgars and the
Magyars for help while the khaganate resorted to the Pechenegs as allies.
The Bulgar army led by Khan Omourtag (814-831) lost the war which is
reflected in a stone inscription.

It is usually agreed today that Bulgarians are a mixture of peoples with
the Slavonic element predominating.

Those who migrate to Israelite-dominated nations like the USA may well be
of different origin than the rest
as we hold in other cases.

We cannot say what proportion is of Israelite or Jewish ancestry but our
impression is that MOST are not though Israelite elements to some degree
must also be present.

7. Brit-Am Migrations and DNA
DNA Findings and Brit-Am Comment
MORE DETAILS WILL BE GIVEN LATER IN A DETAILED ARTICLE
IN OUR MAGAZINE "BRIT-AM TRUTH".
DNA findings claim that the genetic category (haplogroup) R1b originated
in the Middle East and now exists along the Atlantic Coast of Spain, West
Ireland,
Wales, and reaches up into Scandinavia and is dominant throughout Western
Europe
(Germany Czechoslovakia) in general.
R1a also originated in the Middle East but is now is often considered East
European but a specific type came from Central Asia and reached Norway in
ca 500 CE and is now borne by ca 30% of the population and is also
significant amongst Anglo-Saxons.
Jews who have R1a (second largest Jewish group) have almost half like the
Scandinavian type and other half like East European.
Links in marginal features between Scandinavia Scotland Jews.
Haplogroup I is considered Viking and is found in Scandinavia (one third)
and Britain reflecting Viking settlement.
I is also found in Central Europe (East Germany, Poland etc)
Also in Germany and Holland (less than one third each)
N3 is found in England Frisia Denmark and Germany
Anglo-Saxons, Danes, Frisians indistinguishable from each other
but can be differentiated from others.
J found in most Jews Kurds Armenians Turks (of Turkey) and in Palestinians
but Palestinians
have large proportion of different type due to Beduin Arab admixture.
Jews also G (Caucasus), R1a (both East Europe and Scandinavian type),
and R1b (Atlantic Type) also found in Syria (12%).


Brit-Am Comment: DNA findings now provide the ONLY POSSIBLE objection
to Brit-Am findings.
Brit-Am uses Biblical Proofs and Historical ones based on migratory patterns.
The migratory patterns proposed by Brit-Am HAVE BEEN IN PRINCIPLE ACCEPTED
BY DNA SCIENTISTS!
We disagree concerning the explanation and on some (but not all)  points
concerning the dates
but regarding the facts of movement, the direction of movement, the size
and proportional importance of
the movements DNA scientists agree with Brit-Am but disagree with
conventional historians.
BRIT-AM WAS THERE BEFORE ANYONE ELSE!
BRIT-AM WOULD  NOT HAVE MADE IT WITHOUT THE INPUT AND SUPPORT OF OTHER PEOPLE
AND THE PIONEERING WORK OF THOSE WHO WENT BEFORE US!

DNA Findings are consistent with population movements from
the Middle East
1. To Spain, British Isles, reaching into Scandinavia (R1b). Celtic
2. To Central Asia to Scandinavia to British Isles (R1a). Naphtali, Sakae,
Anglo-Saxons, Vikings
3. To Germany to Holland to England (N3) Anglo-Saxons
4. From Middle East at late date (Jews, J).

All of the above are for the male (Y) tracer. Female tracers (mtdn) give
somewhat different results
but also in many ways confirm Brit-Am explanations
and in some cases the Brit-Am explanation is possibly the only one feasible.

DNA science HOWEVER attributes these associations to inherited changes that
are inherited.
We attribute them (at present) to changes that take place for unknown
reasons at unique
time periods to the subjects concerned and are then inherited.
Some DNA studies agree with us but it depends how the data is interpreted.

DNA is analogous to head shapes:
<<It used to be believed that head shapes are inherited and that different
craniological indexes (the relative proportions of width to length, etc)
reflect differing origins. There is something in this assumption. In some
cases it holds but in other cases it does not. Children of Sicilian
immigrants to the USA had rounder heads than their parents whereas the
offspring of East European Jews had longer ones than their own forebears.
The head shapes of children whose parents had moved from one area of
Germany to another were often found to be more similar to those of their
neighbors than those of their progenitors.  In the State of Israel: <<It is
possible to see a difference in the head shape of the immigrant
populations, children of the migratory waves of the 1920s, that came to
Israel from Europe (Ashkenazic Jews): The head shape of the second
generation, born in the land, was different on the average from that of
their parents and had changed to become narrower and longer, similar to
that of the local populations (of Jews from eastern countries and beduin)>>
Dr. Yose Nager, "Mi Anachnu?" Israel, 2003. On the other hand other
populations in the Land of Israel such as the Christian Arabs and Druze
tended to have rounder head shapes. A lot of contradictions exist on this
subject: Kurds and Armenians have lived besides each other for centuries
but have entirely different head shapes. The inhabitants of Central Europe
were longheaded until the Middle Ages when they changed to predominantly
round heads. The same applies for concerning the Amerindians who at that
time inhabited the central regions of North America. In both cases no
recorded incursion of newcomers is known to have taken place but rather an
unexplained change took place in the existing populations.>>
The Tribes ch.2

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