Date: 07/14/2002 1:16:54 PM Central Daylight Time
1. Runes and Hebrew
2. JPS Bible
4. Mother of Messiah?
5. Dan -1
1. Runes and Hebrew
Brit-Am representative in Sweden, Orjan Svennson,
has done important work tracing ancient runic scripts in Sweden to Hebrew.
Check out his findings at:
You may not fully understand the linguistic niceties involved at this site
but nevertheless it is well worth
taking in a general overview.
This research is quite important and constitutes a major breakthrough.
2. JPS Bible
The entire Hebrew Bible translated into English by the Jewish Public
Society is available for free downloading at:
This version actually follows the King James Version but here and there may
be of help.
From: Sharon Lindstrom
Amen sister Cita....
Childbirth is how men and women represent G-d and show their love for
Him. It is HE that values life above any standards that humankind can
comprehend. When people can understand that concept of His Love through
us -- His children bearing His children -- in such a way as you yourself
demonstrates, then they would understand that children are how to express
His love in the physical realm by having them and cherishing them as gifts
Your story about losing children without choice may well inspire many
others who are considering abortion as an "option" to realize that it is NOT
an option -- it's NOT a choice. Your story may make people realize that
children are gifts, they are blessings, they are arrows in our quivers. Too
many people today just don't understand that and with each "choice" abortion
they have they are slapping G-d in the face and ruining their own existence
in life. Your story puts the issue in its proper perspective and I deeply
appreciate that you've shared it.
4. Mother of Messiah?
At 22:02 13/07/2002 -0500, Robert H. Graves wrote:
>One thought I forgot to mention in my comment on the exclusion of the
>tribe of Dan and Ephriam is that you indicated that the Messiah would come
>Neither the Torah nor the Prophets indicate that Dan will be the
>progenitor of the Messiah. Clearly the prophecy given by Israel (Jacob)
>is that the 'scepter will not depart from Judah until Shiloh (the Messiah)
>comes". Gen. 49:10. Further, the Messiah will be a descendant of David
>(Ps. 89: 3 and others) and, in accordance with Gen 49:10, the Messiah will
>occupy David's throne as his legitimate descendant.
>Robert H. Graves
Answer by Yair Davidiy:
OK I was only saying that there is one tradition (amongst others) that the
MOTHER (not the father) of the future Messiah will be descended from Dan.
One tradition says that the mother will be from Dan; another says that the
mother will be from Naphtali. Maybe both traditions are right (the mother
could be descended from both) or neither of them.
5. Dan -1
Since interest has been aroused in Dan let's talk of him.
Ever heard the Irish song "O Danny Boy"?
Notes on Dan -1
adapted from "Lost Israelite Identity" chapter nine.
THE TRIBE OF DAN
The Tribe of Dan when it came out of Egypt with the rest of the
Children of Israel was, after Judah, the most populous of Israelite
Tribes with 62,700 males between the ages of 20 and 60 apart from women,
children, and the elderly (Numbers 2;26).
The son of Dan was called "Hushim" (Genesis 46;23) who gave rise
to the Danite clan known as Shuhami (Numbers 26;43). Symbols associated
with the Tribe of Dan include a lion, snake, eagle, griffin, and dragon.
Aholiab of the Tribe of Dan assisted Betzaleel of the Tribe of Judah in
building the Tabernacle in the Wilderness (Exodus 31;2 6).
Character appraisals of Dan in tradition appear contradictory. One
source (Talmud, Shabat 67) says that all the children of Dan were
idolaters. It also says that Dan received the north side "whence darkness
comes". A Midrash states that Samson the legendary judge hero had a Danite
father and a mother from Judah whereas the future Messiah will have a
father from Judah and a mother from Dan or from Nephtali (Genesis Rabah
The mother of Dan was Bilhah who also bore Nephtali. Dan and
Nephtali are often linked with each other. Bilhah was the maidservant of
Rachel mother of Benjamin and Joseph, and here too parallelisms are noticeable.
Eldad HaDani (ca.800 c.e.) quotes an old legend according
to which the Tribe of Dan left the Land of Israel after the Ten Tribes
separated themselves from Judah. The Northern Ten Tribes under Jeroboam ben
Nebat warred against Judah in the south and so Dan rather than engage in a
fratricidal struggle went into voluntary exile.
SAMSON was from the Tribe of Dan. Samson was an heroic saviour of
superhuman strength given to him at moments of Divine inspiration.. He
became the prototype for Hercules. In Greek Classical Mythology Hercules
appears to frequently represent peregrinations of migrating Phoenicians and
At first the Tribe of Dan received an inheritance around the area
of Joppa (modern Jaffa- Tel Aviv). Most of the inheritance of Dan in the
south was to be lost to the Amorites and Philistines and later regained by
the Israelite Tribes of Ephraim and Judah BUT NOT DAN9. Nevertheless, the
populous Tribe of Dan was to launch forward and conquer an area in the
Upper Galilee, another region in Cilicia (southeast Turkey), establish
settlements in Anatolia, engage in an attempted invasion of Egypt,
establish a base in Libya, conquer Greece, Cyprus, and Crete, and establish
a presence in Bronze Age Scandinavia, Britain, and Ireland.
The Bible says that Danites from the south went out (northward)
and conquered a place called Leshem that they renamed Dan: They did the
same thing with another place called Laish. When Dan had been in the south
they were unable to conquer all of the territory allotted to them and
apparently moved off and it would seem that the forces of Joseph did manage
to later take over the areas originally allotted to Dan.
"And the Amorites forced the children of Dan into the mountain:
for they would not suffer them to come down to the valley:
"But the Amorites would dwell in Mount Heres in Aijalon, and in
Shaalbim: yet the hand of the house of Joseph prevailed, so that they
became tributaries" (Judges 2;34 35)..
It had been prophesied that Dan in his own way would become a formidable force:
"Dan shall judge his people, as one of the tribes of Israel. Dan
shall be a serpent by the way, an adder in the path, that bites the horse's
heels, so that his rider shall fall backward. I wait for thy salvation, O
LORD" (Genesis 49;16 17).
"And of Dan, he said, Dan is a lion's whelp that leaps from
Bashan" (Deuteronomy 33;22)*10.
The period of the Judges
was a cruel age and even one setback could have
near fatal consequences. This explains how and why the Tribe of Dan would
suddenly come, like a leaping lion, conquer and when beaten be forced to
move on, to conquer elsewhere.
"And I will make of you a great nation.
And I will bless you and make your
And you shall be a blessing.
"And I will bless they who bless you, and curse him who curses you.
And in you shall all the families of the earth be blessed.
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