Date: Thu Aug 1, 2002 8:02 am
Contents:
1. Observations and Questions from Wales
2. Jewish - Christian relations
3. Patrick: Sons of Noah and the races
4. Subject: comments/questions To: britam@n...
5. Note from Brit-Am, Jerusalem: Orders and Contributions
6. Petition in Sweden
7. Athol Bloomer in Jerusalem
1. Observations and Questions from Wales:
At 21:19 31/07/2002 +0100, Pamela wrote:
>Dear Yair,
>
>I have just been reading some of your articles sent by e-mail and my heart
>leaps! I am, as far as I know, very British; born in England but making
my
>home here in Wales for much of my adult life. I also LOVE Israel and all
>God's precious people, feeling I am at home every time I visit Israel.
>This tremendous love I have for His Land and people, was I felt,
>God-given, to enable me to obey His command to me through Isaiah 40:1,
>given over 20 years ago. Nevertheless, I have also often secretly wondered
>if I have Jewish ancestry somewhere, because of this tremendous bond I
>feel, and because I never to my knowledge, ever experienced any
>anti-semitic feelings, or even hints of such, as so many admit to when
the
>Lord enlightens them re blessing His people. In fact, I see the Lord's
>Hand very evidently on my life re my Jewish brethren from a very young
>age. My maiden name was 'Dews' - rarely pronounced correctly, so usually
>it came out as 'Jews'. As a little primary school kid, I well remember
>being teased and a certain unpleasantness associated with this as I was
>accused of being a Jew, long before I probably knew such people existed,
>certainly nothing about anti-semitism. As the Lord linked me with His
>people these past years, I realised just how He had prepared me to share
>their feelings of rejection through many of my life's experiences, but
>particularly this one as a small child.
>
>How would one even begin to find one's roots if they really are Jewish
I
>would like to know. Where would one even begin, without researching at
>great expense. Are you finding people in Europe and the UK who find they
>are Jewish after all? I would love to hear your comments, but still aware
>that this deep love and 'kinship' I feel, is probably a God-given thing
>through which He is achieving some of His purposes through me. [I would
>still love to find I AM Jewish nevertheless!!]
>
>Thank you for your interesting articles - what does 'Brit-Am' stand for
by
>the way? British/American - or what?
Blessings
Pamela
Answers from Brit-Am:
a. Brit-Am so far as far as resources and ongoing research are concerned
is
almost a one-man show
though things may improve. For the moment we can provide none or very
little assistance regarding
individual researches but from our published works one could obtain
informational leads and an overall
framework that might be of assistance.
b. Brit-Am is the Hebrew original that is translated as A COVENANT OF THE
PEOPLE in Isaiah 42:6 49:8
[Isaiah 42:6] I THE LORD HAVE CALLED THEE IN RIGHTEOUSNESS, AND WILL HOLD
THINE HAND, AND WILL KEEP THEE, AND GIVE THEE FOR A COVENANT OF THE PEOPLE,
FOR A LIGHT OF THE GENTILES;
[Isaiah 49:8] THUS SAITH THE LORD, IN AN ACCEPTABLE TIME HAVE I HEARD
THEE, AND IN A DAY OF SALVATION HAVE I HELPED THEE: AND I WILL PRESERVE
THEE, AND GIVE THEE FOR A COVENANT OF THE PEOPLE, TO ESTABLISH THE
EARTH, TO CAUSE TO INHERIT THE DESOLATE HERITAGES;
In both instances the reference is to the Lost Ten Tribes.
The fact that incidentally the word(s) also refer to Britain and America
and also have significance for Jews ("brit"
is the word commonly used for circumcision) is also an advantage.
2. Jewish - Christian relations
From: Doc3@a...
A lot has been written lately about the supposed huge gulf that exists
between Orthodox Judaism and Christianity. I guess I need to add my 2 cents
worth to the equation, because frankly, in my family, it doesnt exist.
First, I would like to set my groundwork and discuss assimilation of Jewish
people through intermarriage with Christians. In the last one hundred
years, the Jewish population in the United States has remained static
because of intermarriage with Christians.Regarding intermarriage, if one
does the math, and figures marginal numbers only, it would be surprising
to
find out exactly how many Americans have some degree of Jewish descent
in
their family.
It is estimated that 1 in 3-7 American citizens of Jewish descent
intermarry. Given the population of American Jews, that means 1 million
to
2 million will intermarry in this generation. Figuring 2 children apiece,
that means 4 million children. Multiply that by five generations, and that
could mean about 20-25 million Americans of some degree of Jewish descent.
That equates to one out of every ten people in this country.
I can personally attest to the fact my father, who is Jewish, did just
that
when he married an Irish Protestant fireball that caught his attention
in a
major way. After 7 children, they are still happily married. She made sure
I was raised Christian, and did so with zeal. My grandmother made sure
I
knew about Judaism and had proper respect and reverance for G-d.
This constitutes a major contribution to American society and a huge
pro-Israel lobby in American politics. Part of the reason, at least in
my
case, was the influence of a Jewish Grandmother who was extremely loving,
dedicated to her children and grandchildren, and absolutely determined
to
remind us of our Jewish heritage and to be proud of it. All this in an
extremely intolerant time in American history in a small southern town.
The
Jewish influence and reverence of G-d translates with the marriages, as
well as an absolute love of the Jewish people.
I married a Jewish woman. I have two Jewish children. My children are
raised Jewish not only with my consent, but with my absolute support and
gratification. I dont figure G-d revokes his covenants, and I know G-d
loves the Jewish people. My children are in good hands with the Lord.
So after the intermarriage of my father, resulting scandal, reaffirmation
of love of his family, the unconditional love of my grandmother, the
translated love of the Jewish people that came from my grandmother and
others in my family, and my marriage and children, that one marriage was
responsible for three new Jewish members of my family, and a return to
our
heritage. I remain Christian.
God Bless Israel. God Bless the Jewish people. God Bless Judaism. God bless
Christianity. God bless America.
3.From: patrick: Sons of Noah and the races
Dear Yair,
I have discovered some important research that I believe may shed
additional light on Brit-Am's findings. I have read a book called "After
the Flood" by Bill Cooper. In the book the author spends much time
discussing ancient records of ancestry and how they relate to Noah's sons
Shem, Ham and Japheth. The author believes that certain documents in
Europe tracing the lines of the royal families back, support the Bible.
The documents he discusses seem to be written by Christians such as
Geoffrey of Monmouth but are said to derive from many ancient sources
they compiled. It is said that the records claim European monarchs from
Britian, Denmark etc. can trace their descent back to Japheth. Now since
I believe what Brit Am does about the Tribes, I believe logically North
western Europeans descend from Israel and back to Shem rather than
Japheth. I But the Lists may show descent from Shem after all, although
the author does not favor that position. He also acknowledges that the
lists appear to have some errors. The list of the genealogy of the
British Kings reads: Noah, Japheth, Javan, Iobaath, Baath, Izrau, Ezra,
etc. Izrau could be a corruption of Israel, and Ezra is of course a
Hebrew name. Also when mentioning a list by Asser cited in the book, it
is said some scholars believe the name Sceaf on the list is synonymous
with Shem! The author tries to discredit that position, but if it is true
it would be highly significant and be an evidence of Israelite ancestry!
The book also discusses how Dinosaurs are mention in the Bible (Leviathan
for example and thus there is no contradiction between the Bible and
science) ) it is written by a Christian but it does have much helpful
info.
I hope you find these recommendations helpful.
Shalom,
Patrick
Comment by Brit-Am :
We have "After the Flood" by Bill Cooper. It is worth reading and contains
valuable sources.
Mr Cooper makes his point well but like all of us tends to be sold out
to it.
Early genealogical lists did register Sem (and not Japhet) as the ancestor
of the English,
and there are names in the lists that definitely show Hebrew influences.
Also so far we have shown in the past that the Finns, Danes, Saxons,
Angles, Frisians, Swedes, Welsh, Irish,
and Goths had traditions that connect them to Israel or to the Land of
Israel in Ancient Times.
Other nations also appear to have had similar traditions but so far we
have
not ascertained direct sources for these.
4. Subject: comments/questions To: britam@n...
Hi
I have been a part of the e-mail correspondence for a while now and was
hoping i would come across certain issues that others would have asked
but
since this is not the case I would like to pose the following
1)does Brit Am have a position on Menashe Ben Israel's theories that at
one
time the continents were connected specifically to south america and that
the lost tribes followed a migration pattern that started in
Afghanistan(populated largely by Ephraim who were known for their warlike
impetuousness) and ending with the American Indian?
2)There is a Midrash that makes reference to a third Messiah from menashe
--this idea does not seem to have taken hold in lore--any further knowledge
on this area?
please advise
Sincerely yours
David M
Answers: Regarding question no.1 we are skeptical.
Question no.2 In general the sources suggest two future messiahs:
a. Messiah son of David from Judah.
b.Messiah ben Joseph who however is usually described as being from Ephraim.
There are sources that speak of future great leaders such as Elijah and
a
future High Priest who also has messianic qualities.
I have never so far come across a reference to a Messiah from Menasseh
but
if there is such a source I would be very interested.
5. Note from Brit-Am, Jerusalem: Orders and Contributions
Sometimes people send us money as orders and sometimes as
contributions. We welcome both and need both to function.
If you send in an order
Please include a note concerning it, even a very brief one.
e.g. "1 Ephraim, 1 Joseph", or even just write "books".
A little piece of paper (in the envelope with the check) with the word
"books" on it will ensure
your order is processed straight away.
Alternately if you write "books" on the check itself or on the outside
of
the envelope that should also
be sufficient.
It write the word "books" somewhere on the check, envelope, or piece of
paper is not difficult.
We also need contributions. We function on a low budget and need inflow.
6. Petition in Sweden
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:00:04 -0500
From: Orjan Svensson <orjan.svensson@m...>
Subject: petition
Shalom,
A petition in support of Israel's struggle against terror has been signed
by 79 Swedish politicians from the Christian Democratic party -
32 from the province of Scania, and 47 CD politicians from the rest of
the
country.
See http://members.truepath.com/israelupprop/vilka.htm
Orjan
7. Athol Bloomer is now in Jerusalem.
Athol has done original and valuable research concerning descendants of
King David
who settled in Western Europe and in some cases became part of the nobility
there.
Athol will be giving a lecture on this subject at the coming Brit-Am
meeting in Jerusalem.
Details will follow.