Brit-Am Now no. 1433
The Lost Ten Tribes of Israel Movement
24 December 2009, 7 Tevet 5770
Contents:
1. Do the Jews Really Exist?
Converts from West European Nations Amongst the Jewish People
(a) The Present Wave of Anti-Semitism in Western Europe
(b) The Existence of the Jews in History
(c) Converts to Judaism of West European Origin
2. Question concerning Old English Word and Hebrew
3. Proverbs 20 (New King James Version)
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1. Do the Jews Really Exist?
Converts from West European Nations Amongst the Jewish People
Question:
"orange street congregational church" <secretary@orange-street-church.org> wrote:
Yair.
Greetings too you.
Have you seen this book called - THE INVENTION OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE. by SHLOMO SAND. He is a Israeli also, and if so what do you think of what he says???
God Bless
Roger
Secretary, Orange Street Congregational Church
www.orange-street-church.org
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Brit-Am Reply:
(a) The Present Wave of Anti-Semitism in Western Europe
Before answering your question what is happening where you are?
The impression here is that a wave of primitive ugly Jew-hatred is seeping over Britain and Western Europe.
The revered BBC has been caught telling lies and half-truths and gross exaggerations against Israel. The State of Israel is being depicted as a monstrous entity. The British, Dutch, Finnish, Norwegian, and other governments as well as prominent NGOs in those countries are pouring millions of dollars into the pockets of the Palestinians and any Israeli Jewish organization prepared to betray others Jews and work against Israel.
You are a Protestant patriot living in Ulster.
How would you react if the Netherlands regularly paid tens of millions of dollars to the IRA or rather to a hypothetical branch of the IRA that had sworn to kill you and your family and every Protestant it could lay hands on?
[ Whatever you may think of it the IRA looks to us like a Quakers Union compared to the most moderate of Arab organizations aligned against Israel.]
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Now to your question:
(b) The Existence of the Jews in History
The book by Sand according to news releases was originally written in Hebrew and was said to have been a best seller in Israel before being translated into English.
I saw overseas discussions of the book, thought it might have informational leads or points worth seeing, and went looking for it. I asked around in several leading book purveyors (Steimantsky, Ludwig Mayer) in Jerusalem and they had never heard of it.
Who was reading it?
Maybe all the beatniks in Tel Aviv?
Anyway, I have not yet seen the book and maybe I have not missed much.
You said that author is "a Israeli also" as if that lent him something extra.
According to articles on the web he is communist, son of Communist parents, and was associated with Arab enemies of the Jewish State of Israel.
In other words it is reasonable to assume that his book has an agenda behind it and is not merely an abstract historical study.
His book according to reviews says that after the Romans destroyed the Temple most Jews stayed in the land and became non-Jewish Palestinians.
Meanwhile a few Jews went to Europe where they converted a whole lot of eager Gentiles to cut off their foreskins, suffer persecutions and horrendous harassment and become fanatical Jews prepared to give their lives for the sake of the Jewish Belief in One God.
And that is just for starters.
Wonders will never cease.
Are the Jews Really Europeans?
Who knows.
Our impression is that conventional historical accounts are more or less accurate.
The Jews were driven almost entirely out of the Holy Land. Some remained and became Gentiles. In this however as in similar cases most of those who became Christians or whatever may to start with have been merely Gentiles who had converted beforehand such as the Idumeans.
The Jews in Europe including those in the West in the early days may well have accepted many converts.
Judaism always accepted converts even though this often lead to persecutions and the converts did not always stay the distance.
The present-day Jews contain a substantial hard core of direct descendants of the ancient Judaeans along with converts many of whom in our opinion
descend from the Lost Ten Tribes.
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(c) Converts to Judaism of West European Origin
Until recently most converts (and nearly all those who remained religious) were mainly of West European ancestry.
We have an article on this subject.
See:
ORTHODOX RABBI INTERVIEWED ABOUT CONVERSIONS
ETHNIC DISTINCTIONS IN CONVERSION-APTITUDES INDIRECTLY AFFIRM "BRIT-AM" BELIEFS!
http://www.britam.org/Tribesman/Evidence.html
Extracts:
You had people interested in Judaism from very many countries. You had many people who came from Great Britain, [and from] Scotland. You had many people from Germany. -It is interesting that there were less from France. - Many people from Holland and the Scandinavian countries, Finland, etc., etc.
... I would say definitely that the people, the converts who come from "northern countries" (let's put it that way), have a much greater affinity with Judaism ...There is a definite preponderance of people from "Northern" countries. By "northern" I mean Scotland, Holland, Scandinavian countries: These definitely have greater [affinity]. The conversion process is more natural to them than it is to either Latin or even Slavic people. ...we can also say that people who came from a good Christian background had less of a problem as compared to people who came from, let us say, an atheistic or non-religious environment.
Brit-Am : Did you not once [before this interview] say that Dutch people had an affinity for Judaism?
Answer : Yes of course, this has to do with the Bible, with the affinity for what they call the "Old" Testament, definitely.
... There were not too many Irish, not too many Irish, no. But there were quite a number of Scottish people. One must say that they were amongst the best candidates. Also the Dutch and the Northern English.
...the more religious the upbringing the person has [the better it is]. The basic concepts of religion are the same. There is more observance, maybe, in Judaism BUT the basic concepts are very similar, identical. I would say not only similar, but identical. [Likewise] In ethical behavior, in ethical externally related behavior, in family-oriented behavior.
2. Question concerning Old English Word and Hebrew
Harold J White, MD wrote:
Re
the relation of "gno'f" to ganoff.
"gno'f is in the opening of Chaucer's The Miller's Tale.
The opening words contain "gno'f".Could this relate to "ganoff"?
I look forward to get your opinion.
Harold J White,MD
