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Brit-Am Now no. 1619
Movement of the Ten Tribes of Israel.
26 December 2010, 19 Tevet 5771.
Contents:
1. Query About the Possible Jewish Lineage of a South African Huguenot Family.
2. Question Concerning the Confusion of Gomer with Israel.
3. Gomer Nations with whom Israelites Intermixed
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1. Query About the Possible Jewish Lineage of a South African Huguenot Family.
Andy wrote:
Re: Jewish lineage
Shalom
We have been looking at your www.
My family are descendants of the Huguenots and I have documentation of my family leaving and arriving in South Africa in 1699.
We have always identified with the Jewish people and felt close to them.
Please could you tell me more about where we go from here? Is this documentation that I have enough to prove Jewish lineage?
We would be most grateful for any advise and assistance you can give us.
Yours faithfully
Andy and Glynis Delport
Brit-Am Reply:
The Huguenots were Protestant Calvinists in France. They suffered persecution from the Catholics and so many emigrated to North America, South Africa, Netherlands, Germany, Great Britain, and even Ulster.
Amongst those who remained in France fairly close connections were maintained with the Jewish community.
During WW2 French Protestants (mainly Huguenots) were outstanding in helping Jews survive.
The same also applied to the Northern Netherlands.
In France there existed a tradition amongst both the Huguenots and Jews that some of the Huguenots were decended from Jewish Marranos (forced converts to Catholicism) from Spain and others from Jews in France who likewise had become Christians due to coercion.
Nevertheless it appears that while the Huguenots are indeed probably descended from Israelites they may not necessarily be all of Jewish descent but rather from the Tribe of Gad:
See our article:
The Huguenots
Israelite Origins of an Ethnic-Religious Grouping.
http://www.britam.org/huegenot.html
If you feel that your specific family is descended from Jews that could well be. It may be worth checking into.
Brit-Am however cannot help you in this matter.
There exist e-mail discussion groups specializing in the genealogy of all veteran European families in South Africa.
You may be more aware of this than we are.
God bless you,
Yair
2. Question Concerning the Confusion of Gomer with Israel.
Re GOMER is a Name of Israelites!
According to Rabbi Yisrael Alter ("Beis Yisroel"), Rabbi of of Gur!
http://www.britam.org/GOMER2.html
Michelle Bowie wrote:
Shalom Yair,
Okay, I'm offically confused as these are all the verses regarding who Gomer is and I see no connection with being Israel. Mixed perhaps later, but certainly not "Israel" in the sense of ancestral origin from Shem.
Can you clarify what was meant by the article? Maybe I missed something or read it incorrectly.
(Gen 10:2) The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras.
(Gen 10:3) And the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah.
(1Ch 1:5) The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras.
(1Ch 1:6) And the sons of Gomer; Ashchenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah.
(Eze 38:6) Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.
Blessings, M. Bowie
Brit-Am Reply:
Shalom, Sorry for the evident lack of clarity in our explanation:
Let us try again:
Gomer as you point out is a nation and a group of non-Israelite nations descended from Japhet son of Noah.
"Gomer" was also a name given to Israel by the Assyrians due to a freak of linguistic derivation.
"Gomer" is a name also applied to the Cimmerian-group of peoples who may originally have been non-Israelite but at least later received Israelite groups into their confederation.
"Gomer" is a name that the Prophet Hosea (chs 1 & 2) applied to the northern Israelites who became the Lost Ten Tribes.
Gomer son of Japhet according to Talmudic sources was in the same areas that the Israelites were exiled to.
It had been prophesied that the Israelites who would be exiled were to intermix with other nations and loose their identity.
Hosea 7: 8 "Ephraim has mixed himself among the peoples" from the Hebrew "Ephraim be-amim hu Yitbolel" or literally: "Ephraim shall be assimilated amongst the Peoples".
We are therefore justified in concluding that the non-Israelite nations whom the Lost Israelites would be associated are those of Gomer son of Japhet. Historically this is what happened. Prominent national groups associated with Gomer include the Celts, Germans, and Turks. Israelite Nations in the west according to our studies adopted Celtic and Germanic culture and languages. Prior to that (before moving west) many had been in the east where they were influenced by Turkic-Scythian type peoples. The Khazars (who were also part of the Ten Tribes) remained in the east and they too are often mistakenly attributed Turkic-Scythian origin.
The Prophet Hosea calls upon the Israelites to free themselves from the type of behavior associated with their adopted Gomeric identity.
A copy of this question and answer has been posted to the Queries and Reactions Section of the article:
GOMER is a Name of Israelites!
According to Rabbi Yisrael Alter ("Beis Yisroel"), Rabbi of of Gur!
http://www.britam.org/GOMER2.html
This discovery seems almost too good to be true. Those of our subscribers who read Hebrew may even doubt its veracity. Therefore,
a photo-clip of the original Hebrew text from:
[Beis Yisroel" on VeYechi, 5710 (ca. 1950-51), # # Genesis 47:28. ]
on which the article is based may now be seen below as well as at the beginning of the essay.
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Breishit-Genesis 47:28. VeYechi, 5710 (ca. 1950-51). For explanation and commentary see the article below.  |
This text represents a development of some significance.
3. Gomer Nations with whom Israelites Intermixed
Addition to Article:
GOMER is a Name of Israelites!
http://www.britam.org/GOMER2.html
Who is non-Israelite Gomer and the Gomerites with whom Israelites intermixed?
In our article on Gomer,
http://www.britam.org/Proof/
Attributes/roleGomer.html
