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Brit-Am Now no. 1642.
7 February 2011, 3 Adar-Aleph 5772.
Movement of the Ten Tribes of Israel.
Contents:
1. Brit-Am Interpretation of Isaiah 11:14 Disputed by Meyer Stahl and Brit-Am Reply.
2. Brian Sandridge: Some English-Hebrew Possibilities.
3. New YouTube Video Clip: Australia-Sinim.avi
4. Question on the Dacians in Rumania.
5. New Article: "Prove Loyalty to Your Israelite Ancestors
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1. Brit-Am Interpretation of Isaiah 11:14 Disputed by Meyer Stahl and Brit-Am Reply.
From: "meyer stahl"
Subject: Re: Brit-Am Now no. 1638: Flying Palestinians to the West?
Yair, You took Isa.11:14 out of context. Isa.11:1 introduces The Messiah and His Kingdom. He gathers together all 12 tribes of Israel and brings them back to the land of Israel v.6 a time of peace. v.8-9 children protected, earth full of knowledge of The Lord. v. 10 Gentiles seek Messiah v.11 remnant of people coming back to land. v.12 all Jews coming back to land. v.13 Judah and Ephraim at peace .v.14 You have interpreted wrongly. look at v.15-16 a highway for His people to return to land. Now read v.14 in CONTEXT But they shall fly upon the shoulders of the Philistines toward the west;they shall lay their hands upon Edom and Moab (all enemies of Israel); and the children of Ammon shall obey them. There is no need to interpret v.14. Meyer Stahl.
Brit-Am Reply:
I do not understand your point since you do not relate to the meaning of the Hebrew that we explained and that we will expand on below.
Concerning Isaiah chapter 11, You interpret the chapter in consecutive order. This is acceptable and probable.
See the Brit-Am Summary of Isaiah chapter 11 which also presents a scenario in chronological order (as you have done) following the verse sequence.
http://www.britam.org/isaiah/
Isaiah11to15.html
First of all the actual realization of Prophecy does not have to be in chronological order.
Even if chronological order is accepted the fact that certain events are foreshadowed by governmental policies or historical tendencies lends a deeper appreciation to the ultimate reality that we expect to take place.
If you look on our articles concerning the transfer of Arab Populations e.g.
Options for Survival: A Solution to the War in Gaza
http://www.britam.org/hamas.html
Movement of Arab Populations (MAP)
http://www.britam.org/
Questions/QuesMAP.html
"The Arab Problem. DRIVE THEM OUT!" by Alexander Zephyr
http://www.britam.org/arabgo.html
"They Must Go!"
The Proposed Movement of Arab Populations.
http://www.britam.org/Expulsion.html
You will notices three main points behind the Brit-Am advocation of encouraging Arab Emigration.
(a) Practical and Humane Considerations. it is for the good of the Palestinians as well as of everybody else.
(b) It is a Divine Commandment and Imperative Warning in the Bible:
'If you do not drive out inhabitants of the land, those you allow to remain will be like splinters in your eyes and thorns in your sides. They will constantly fight with you over the land in which you live. And as I plan to do to them, so I will do to you.' (Numbers 33:55-56).
(c) It was prophesied in Isaiah 11:14 that Ephraim and Judah are destined to act together in this matter therefore such action is positive and
it is worthy that it be considered. Whether or nor the prophecy of Isaiah binds us to a time-table and an ordering of priorities is another question.
Even if you disagree with our interpretation of Isaiah 11:14 the principle that the Palestinians must be transferred still reamains.
Now let us discuss Isaiah 11:14. The preceding two verses spoke of Judah and Ephraim reuniting or at least drawing close together.
[Isaiah 11:14]
But they shall fly down upon the shoulder of the Philistines toward the west;
Together they shall plunder the people of the East;
They shall lay their hand on Edom and Moab;
And the people of Ammon shall obey them.
All that concerns us at present is the expression,
# But they shall fly down upon the shoulder of the Philistines toward the west #.
Here we have the words "fly down" or simply "fly" which is what the Hebrew says, VaYa-ufu". This is agreed.
In modern terminology this connotes fly by airoplane.
The words translated as "upon the shoulder" in our opinion mean "wing" or "fixed wing".
In Modern Hebrew the usual word for wing is "canaf" which is related tot he word for shoulder "cataf".
The difference between "canaf" (wing) and "cataf" (shoulder) is, to our mind, that "canaf" connotes shoulder that bends like the wing of a bird.
The wing of an airoplane does not bend therefore "cataf" is more appropriate.
At all events Ephraim and Judah are flying something so we may presume it is airoplanes.
The Philistine are Palestinians.
This is the modern equivalent and the most logical deduction.
In other times Commentators proposed other solutions.
Don Isaac Abarbanel (1437-1508) says he found in ancient books the tradition that the inhabitants of Genoa and Venice were descended from the Philistines. Genoa is on the northwest coast of Italy and Venice on the northeast facing the Adriatic Sea. Concerning Venice the linguist and historian Eduard Meyer (1855-193) did believe the Philistines were related to Ancient peoples on the eastern coast of the Adriatic not far from Venice. In the time of Abarbanel both Venice and Genoa were independent city-states with vast maritime connections and overseas colonies of their own. In his age equating the Philistines with these polities would have made sense. In our time these two cities are not much more than tourist attractions alongside other places of equal attraction on the Italian scene.
Assuming that we are near the End Times and that Prophecy speaks to us we equate the Philistines with Palestinians because:
In ancient times the Philistines were centered in the south of Israel in Gaza, Ashkelon, Ashdod, Ekron, and Gath, etc.
They were also in Beth-Shean and other areas east of the Galilee.
Nowadays the Palestinians are found throughout Israel but especially in Gaza and the Israeli Negev and also in the Galilee.
The geographical location more or less overlaps.
The Palestinians call themselves "Palestinian". Palestine is a Latinised form of the very name "Philistia" i.e. Land of the Philitines".
They actually all themselves Philistines"!
The Palestinians are descended from many peoples but their ancestors to some degree also include Canaanites and Philistines. There is a physical ancestral connection between the two.
We therefore have the option that Ephraim and Judah will fly the Palestinians "yamah" meaning "to the sea" or "to the west".
The Hebrew DOES NOT SAY "against". They are not going to go to fly against the Palestinians. They are going to fly them to the west!
There is a Biblical commandment for them to do this.
The Hebrew language in Isaiah 11:14 makes the most sense if understood as we have explained it.
What therefore is wrong with our explanation?
Unless of course one has ideological or misplaced "humanitarian" reasons for not wanting to accept the possibility?
2. Brian Sandridge: Some English-Hebrew Possibilities.
Linguistics:
young man= bachoor.- English: Bachelor
street= r'chov=- Road
uncle=d'od =- dad?? "Father" to "Dad" seems to be unrelated to a shortening or juvenilization like "mother" to "mom".
hungry= raish-ayin -vet- rav RAVenous to be very hungry.
bed= mem-yud-tet-hay- miyata - mat -- mattress.
hat = cooba ---cover (of the head).
war = milchama - military.
to drink= shot, a "shot" of whiskey?
to see = roo-ay To rue the day? "I hope you see the day that puts you in the place you have put me."
to run =ratz -- rush or race ???
to buy = kon-ay-- con like in con artist. I was conned, I bought it.
there AREN'T= ain-- AIN"T.
tomorrow= mahar -- wait toMAHARo.
to know = laDATAt -- data .
3. New YouTube Video Clip
Australia-Sinim.avi
http://www.youtube.com/
watch?v=H-GsiJBSn9g
The Lost Ten Tribes will return from Britain and North America as described by Isaiah chapter 49. Amongst the lands listed from where the Lost Israelites will return is the "Land of Sinim" (Isaiah 49:12) meaning Australia and New Zealand.
A Brit-Am, Movement of the Ten Tribes, Production.
Length: 20 minutes.
See Also:
Land of Sinim and Australia
http://www.britam.org/BAPoetry6.html#Sinim
