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Brit-Am Now no. 1728.
Movement of the Ten Tribes of Israel.
3 August 2011, 3 Av 5771.
Contents:
1. How Many Jews Could Have Been Saved? Two Sides to the Debate.
Side One: Very Few Could Have Been Saved.
Side Two: Many More Could Have Been Saved if there Have Have Been a Will to Save Them!
How Many Could Have Been Saved? The Brit-Am Impression from the Sources.
2. A Few Select Recent Testimonials Concerning Brit-Am, Movement of the Ten Tribes of Israel.
Part Three
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1. How Many Jews Could Have Been Saved? Two Sides to the Debate.
Side One: Very Few Could Have Been Saved.
H-H RUBINSTEIN (MEDOFF): How they could have saved more Jews
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I might I ask you what you think the Western powers could do in 1941 to "nip in the bud" the Holocaust? Britain was fighting alone until Russia was attacked in June, and could hardly save itself, let alone the Jews of Poland. America was not in the War until Pearl Harbor in December, and had an army of only 100,000 men. Russia was invaded in June and the Nazi army got within 25 miles of the Kremlin by December. What do you think they could have done?
I would advise anyone who thinks that more Jews could have been saved by the democracies during the War to read my book, _The Myth of Rescue_ (Routledge, London, 1997). The Jews of Nazi-occupied Europe were no longer refugees, as they had been in the 1930s, but the exact opposite -- prisoners -- prisoners of a genocidal madman who was all-powerful throughout Europe. My book reprints all the plans for rescue which were made anywhere in the West during the War. It is painfully obvious that all were totally useless.
(2) I don't want to procrastinate this debate on which we are never likely to agree, but since the Jews of Nazi-occupied Europe were not "refugees," most of this list consists of non sequiturs. A "refugee" is someone who has "to leave his or her homeland because of a well-founded fear of persecution." This is an obviously accurate description of German and Austrian Jewry prior to 1940. But the whole point is that after 1940-41 the Jews on Nazi-occupied Europe were forbidden to leave or emigrate, and were not rerfugees but prisoners -- prisoners marked for death. No one in the West could think of any way of getting round this, and, indeed, almost everyone still thought of the Jews as "refugees." No one anywhere proposed bombing Auschwitz until April-May 1944, and nor indeed any other concentration camp or extermination camp.
No Jewish group ever proposed this before April-May 1944, so far as I am aware, including the Revisionists.
Professor Bill Rubinstein
Wales-Aberystwyth University
Side Two: Many More Could Have Been Saved if there Have Have Been a Will to Save Them.
H-H MEDOFF: Many Jews could have been rescued--and were
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William Rubinstein claims that during the Holocaust, "the Jews of Nazi-occupied Europe were...prisoners -- prisoners of a genocidal madman who was all-powerful throughout Europe," and therefore, he claims, "all the plans for rescue...were totally useless."
In fact, Hitler's Europe was not hermetically sealed. We know that many Jews could have been rescued prior to the Allied liberation, because some Jews did escape or were rescued before V-E Day. For example, more than 26,000 European Jewish refugees reached Palestine between 1941 and 1944 in transports organized by Zionist activists. An estimated 27,000 Jewish refugees escaped to Switzerland and were granted haven during the war years, though tens of thousands more reached the Swiss border but were turned back. More than 7,000 Danish Jews were smuggled out of Nazi-occupied Denmark to safety in Sweden in 1943. Thousands of French Jews escaped the 1942 deportations by fleeing to Spain. Thousands more reached Allied-liberated Italy.
There were also many instances in which Jews were rescued within Europe. In 1944, for example, pressure by the U.S. government's War Refugee Board (which was belatedly established by President Roosevelt under pressure from Congress, the Treasury Department, and Jewish activists) convinced Rumania to move 48,000 Jews out of the path of the retreating German Army. The WRB financed operations to help refugees survive in France, Germany, Italy, Czechoslovakia, and Hungary, including bribing German officials, providing supplies and forged documents, and sustaining 8,000 Jewish orphans hidden in France. The WRB also mobilized the international pressure that stopped the deportation of Jews from Budapest to Auschwitz in 1944, and Raoul Wallenberg, who was financed and assisted by the Board, saved many thousands in Budapest. As a result, some 120,000 Jews were still alive in Hungary at war's end.
Rubinstein's claim that nobody could be saved is thus contradicted by the fact that many were. Rafael Medoff
The David S. Wyman Institute for Holocaust Studies
How Many Could Have Been Saved? The Brit-Am Impression from the Sources.
We dealt with this subject in our work "The Tribes".
Both sides of the argument bring up valid points.
Many more could probably have been saved than actually were.
On the other hand there is a tendency to exaggerate as to how many Jews could have been rescued. The determination of the Nazis and their Helpers to kill Jews seems to be underrated.
The enthusiasm and popular support for the killing of Jews amongst certain Eastern Europe populaces also seems to be often glossed over. The Nazi War against the Jews was a positive factor in the eyes of many Gentiles.
Those who say that few more could have been saved than actually were are probably technically the more relatively accurate.
Even so, we must not hide from the fact that in some arenas much less was done than could have been and that prejudice against Jews was one of the causes of this inaction.
We must also acknowledge and be appreciative of what was done and the difficulties that were surmounted in order to do it.
2. A Few Select Recent Testimonials Concerning Brit-Am, Movement of the Ten Tribes of Israel.
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