Brit-Am Now no. 1328
April 7 2009, 13 Nisan 5769
Contents:
1. Questions on Rabbinical Sources and Brit-Am
(a) What are the importance of Rabbinical Sources that Brit-Am Claims it has?
(b) What is the nature of these sources?
(c) What authority do they have?
(d) You yourself emphasize the paramountcy of Biblical Proof. The Bible as an authority is agreed upon
by all of us. Many of us do not accept Rabbinical authority and may even be suspicious of it.
Should not Biblical truths be enough?
(e) How acceptable are these proofs in the eyes of learned Jews?
(f) Some Rabbinical authorities (that you yourself quote in other contexts) claim the Ten Tribes are in
the East. How do you deal with these?
(g) Since Brit-Am publishes its findings they become part of the public domain.
What further use do we have for Brit-Am in this matter?
2. Lost Tribes Now Claimed to be in New Guinea!
Without Brit-Am who is to say they are wrong?
3. Question on Micah 5:3 and the End Times
4. Question on Biblical Place Names in the USA and Possible prominence of Judah
5. New Book Received on Tartan Designs and Ancient Israel?
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1. Questions on Rabbinical Sources and Brit-Am
Questions:
(a) What are the importance of Rabbinical Sources that Brit-Am Claims it has?
(b) What is nature of these sources?
(c) What authority do they have?
(d) You yourself emphasize the paramountcy of Biblical Proof. The Bible as an authority is agreed upon
by all of us. Many of us do not accept Rabbinical authority and may even be suspicious of it.
Should not Biblical truths be enough?
(e) How acceptable are these proofs in the eyes of learned Jews?
(f) Some Rabbinical authorities (that you yourself quote in other contexts) claim the Ten Tribes are in
the East. How do you deal with these?
(g) Since Brit-Am publishes its findings they become part of the public domain.
What further use do we have for Brit-Am in this matter?
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Brit-Am Answers:
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(a) What are the importance of Rabbinical Sources that Brit-Am Claims it has?
(a) The fact that Rabbinical Sources may be used to confirm Brit-Am beliefs enhances the status
of our presentations in the eyes of Jews and Gentiles.
It shows that our Biblical interpretations are not arbitrary assertions claiming an interpretation
that may not accord with the original intention.
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(b) What is the nature of these sources?
(b) We apply Rabbinical Sources to:
(i) Confirm the fact that certain Biblical Passages are referring to the Ten Tribes.
We, for instance, may belive that the application of the verses in question to the Ten Tribes is obvious
but others will dispute it. When a Rabbinical sources agrees with our interpretation we have more chance of being
taken seriously. For example Brit-Am applies most of Isaiah 49 to the Lost Ten Tribes and their location in the End Times.
The Talmud and Midrashim support this.
(ii) Outright Ten Tribes Identifications.
Rabbinical Opinions might say the Lost Ten Tribes are in certain areas.
Rashi for instance (on Obadiah 1:20) says they are in France.
There are claims however that Rashi was referring to the Jews of France and its neighborhood and not
to the Gentiles. Additional sources are therefore needed to place Rashi in the correct context.
(iii) Analyzes of Ten Tribes Characteristics Applicable to Brit-Am Findings
These sources consist of Rabbinical Commentary (usually based on the Bible) that attributes certain
trends of conduct and Tribal Character to the Ten Tribes or specific Tribes amongst them. We show how
the attributes in question fit those of peoples we have identified from other sources as the Tribes in question.
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(c) What authority do they have?
(c) One needs to distinguish between (i) sources concerning the Law and (ii) those that are intended to enhance our understanding.
(i) Concerning the Law, the Brit-Am understanding is in fact (more or less obligatory) once our interpretations is accepted as accurate.
(ii) Commentaries examining the meaning do not have absolute authority but they command respect.
We once met a certain Rabbi famous for his claims that the Lost Ten Tribes are in the east.
We discussed with him Rashi (and Nachmanides in "Sefer HaGeulah") on Obadiah 1:20.
At first he disputed our interpretation, then after looking at the sources more carefully and a commentary
on them agreed that the sources said what we said they did.
After that in effect he remarked:
#Rashi indeed says the Ten Tribes are in France. Rashi was wrong!##
This is a legitimate attitude. Where legal matters are not concerned nothing but respect is required.
The degree of respect will depend on the standing of the source quoted.
Nevertheless once we show that our beliefs are consistent with Rabbinical opinion we cannot be dismissed.
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(d) You yourself emphasize the paramountcy of Biblical Proof. The Bible as an authority is agreed upon by all of us. Many of us do not accept Rabbinical authority and may even be suspicious of it.
Should not Biblical truths be enough?
(d) Biblical Proofs perhaps should be enough but they are not.
Our understanding of Biblical passages may be disputed.
We ourselves may not always be 100% sure that the understanding we have
is the correct one obviating all other possible interpretations.
Whatever one thinks about the Rabbis they understood Hebrew and the Bible better than we can.
It helps to have the Sages on your side.
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(e) How acceptable are these proofs in the eyes of learned Jews?
(e) see the answer to (c) above.
Authority differs from one source to another.
In general the sources we quote are those that are the most revered and highly accepted.
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(f) Some Rabbinical authorities (that you yourself quote in other contexts) claim the Ten Tribes are in
the East. How do you deal with these?
(f) Abarbanel and the Malbim said that the Ten Tribes are in the East.
The Abarbanel was relying on reports extant in his day but dating back centuries beforehand.
At that stage some of the Ten Tribes had indeed been in the east but had since come westward.
The Abarbanel refers to reports that he considered to be reliable saying that the Lost Tribes were in India.
On the other hand,
In his commentary on the Bible when he is explaining the meaning of Biblical Passages the Abarbanel
lends himself to the interpretation that in the End Times the Lost Tribes will be in the west.
He even goes out of his way to stress the future role of England in this matter.
The Malbim was a revered commentator whose insights we also refer to.
The Malbim was influenced in his Commentory by the Abarbanel.
The Malbim probably relied upon the Abarbanel in saying the Lost Tribes were in the East.
In many ways however he departs from the accepted consensus of other commentators.
In a sense he was a "maverick" and therefore it is more acceptable for us (than it might otherwise be)
to accept part of what he says and leave the rest.
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(g) Since Brit-Am publishes its findings they become part of the public domain.
What further use do we have for Brit-Am in this matter?
(g) Brit-Am has no monopoly over this knowledge.
Brit-Am was the first to point out (in our book "Ephraim") Biblical Indications that the Lost Ten Tribes in the End Times before their redemption would be Christians.
Now several "Ephraimites" do the same and do not refer to us.
We also showed the opinions of Nachmanides and Rashi concerning the Ten Tribes and other "Ephraimite" speakers do the same also without mentioning us.
We also were the first to bring attention (regarding Ten Tribes matters) to the work "Kol HaTor".
[actually the work itself is probably less important than we then considered it.] and here too others have adopted this source as something of their "own".
Ultimately, God willing, scholars will arise either after we pass away or alongside us beforehand and continue this work.
So far they have not done so.
We have an advantage in so far in that we believe in the sources we use, understand them, and work with them and in the context around them.
For example if one wants to persuade a doctor that a certain practice is healthy he may well listen to you if it makes sense and may be easily verified. If however it goes against what he has always understood to be the accepted doctrine and sounds somewhat abstruse he will prefer to hear it from another doctor or at least from someone with reasonable medical knowledge at a professional level.
Brit-Am has ALSO made (in our opinion) very important progress in secular knowledge concerning the Ten Tribes.
Several important research breakthroughs emanated from us.
We have successfully combined Biblical, Rabbinical, and Secular researches.
To achieve this we merited Divine Providence in our researches in finding the sources, in wanting to find them,
in working hard at it, and showing how it all fits together.
These achievements qualify Brit-Am to continue along the same path.
Other people (e.g. Steven Collins and Cam Rea) have also made contributions in related fields.
They too however had to work at what they did.
Other people could theoretically repeat what they say (without referring to them) or copy them
but it would not be the same.
Finally instead of talking about what we have done and might yet do we should get on with doing more of it.
This indeed is our intention but we need the understanding support of our subscribers to keep on at it.
2. Lost Tribes Now Claimed to be in New Guinea:
Without Brit-Am who is to say they are wrong?
From: Allan Ulman <allan.ulman@gmail.com>
Subject: The lost Jews - Benoni - Benjamin, in Jiwaka (Tabi Buga),
Western
Greetings in the name of God Yahweh,
We are the lost tribe of Jacob, namely the tribe of Benjamin, from Matri clan (Matrixites) - we have a research project based on the lost Jews, this project is based on the tribe of Benjamin who have lost the distinct identity, disappeared during the fall of Babylon and travelled to the Eastern countries and finally settled in Papua New Guinea.
This project is based on End Times, final restoration of the nation Israel and peace within Israel. It is all about the Messanic power, which is comprised of two languages, the Hebrew language and the Nar language, it also has a Biblical Calendar, and 3 days worship pattern. We have more to discuss on this project, however, we need to identify the organisation responsible for the lost Jews. Please give the contact or email address of the organisation.
Thankyou, may God bless you.
Your brethren,
Evangelist Allan Ulman
Lost Jews Operational Co-ordinator - PNG
3. Question on Micah 5:3 and the End Times
Bert Lorenz wrote:
Yair,
I'm trying to understand all of the requirements that still need to be
completed before Ephraim can be united with Judah. When I read Micah 5:3,
it appears this may be one of the last requirements needed before the return.
Micah 5:3 states: "Therefore will he give them up, until the time that she
which travaileth hath brought forth: then the remnant of his brethren shall
return unto the children of Israel."
As I understand it, the children of Israel are represented by Judah and his
brethren are from Joseph through Ephraim. This is confirmed by Ezekiel 37:16
"Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah,
and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick,
and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim and for all the house of
Israel his companions."
I can see there is a difference between the "children" and the "house" of
Israel. As for Micah 5:3, there is a condition that that needs to be
accomplished before the return. Therefore, what does "until the time that
she which travaileth hath brought forth" mean to you?
Bert
