"Brit-Am Now" - 222
April 1, 2003
1. Correct Link to US State Flags (worth seeing)
2. Conspiracy Theories
3. Reconstructured head of Roman Mercenary from Gaul or Germany in Scotland
4. Brit-Am Message Can be Difficult to Accept
5. Steve Collins: Menasseh and Ephraim: Some Considerations
"The Two Josephite Nations--Was one ten times greater than the other."
6. The Name Houzet like Hosea!
7. Book of Simeon?
1. Correct Link to US State Flags (worth seeing)
At 11:02 30/03/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>"Here is the page with the USA state flags:
><<http://britam.org/names.html>http://britam.org/names.html>
>
>FYI, clicking the link results in "Page cannot be found".
>Aram
Reply: Sorry. Please Try:
http://britam.org/names.html
2. Conspiracy Theories
From: EcoRebbe@aol.com
Subject: Re: "Brit-Am Now"-220
In a message dated 3/30/03 12:24:39 AM, britam@netvision.net.il writes:
<<
Conspiracy Theories
I know that some of our subscribers believe in conspiracy theories as do
some of my friends and personal acquaintances.
Conspiracy ideas are usually the fruit of sick minds and/or fictions
invented by sinister elements who themselves
are part of an unspoken "conspiracy" to work against the Jewish, American,
and British peoples.
I find it very disheartening when otherwise good, intelligent, sensitive
people (sometimes Jewish ones or even Brit-Am supporters)
suddenly reveal that they have been taken in by Conspiracy propaganda.
Conspiracy theories are in effect the outcome of those who seek the renewed
betrayal of Joseph and Judah. >>
AMEYN, AMEYN!
The EcoRebbe. Rabbi Gershon Caudill
ecokosher@aol.com
Midrash says: "And you find that Israel will not be redeemed until they
become one
unity, as it says, [Jeremiah 3:18] IN THOSE DAYS THE HOUSE OF JUDAH SHALL GO
UNTO THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL, AND THEY SHALL COME TOGETHER OUT OF THE LAND OF THE
NORTH TO THE LAND THAT I HAVE GIVEN FOR AN INHERITANCE UNTO YOUR FATHERS.
Only when they are one unity will they merit receiving the Divine Presence."
(Tanchuma, Nitzavim, 1;18)
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3. Reconstructured head of Roman Mercenary from Gaul or Germany in Scotland:
Interesting
http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=371732003
4. Brit-Am Message Can be Difficult to Accept
Subject: Re: "Brit-Am Now"-221
In a message dated 3/31/2003 10:14:43 AM Eastern Standard Time,
britam@netvision.net.il writes:
>Deuteronomy 23 consists of commandments. Did you intend another chapter?
>If you were referring to threatened punishments for not keeping the
>commandments then our explanation is that the Lost ten Tribes had their
>religious obligations under the Mosaic Code partially suspended for a
>period so that they could fulfill their historical destiny. They were
>therefore freed from the threatened punishments at that stage. Judah was
>not freed and Judah did suffer accordingly for its sins. Judah in the
>future will be compensated.
Yair
the above part of a response you supplied for another individual writing in
to you is perhaps singularly the hardest part of the Brit-Am message for me
to accept--not that G-d forbid I am challenging you.
Being brought up with all the notions of an obedient Judah obeying the
Torah as a prerequisite for G-d's protection throughout the diaspora, was
all very consistent with what I learned in the Bible about the same
relationship between ancient Israel and G-d. As a Jew I am psychologically
so "used" to the idea of a decimated history as a result of swaying form
the path that it is hard for me to imagine part of a covenantal people
whose obligations were temporarily suspended to fulfill theri historical
destiny independent of their covenantal obligations. That is why in this
sense it is easier to accept the notion of the Amerindians theories as
prime components of the lost tribes, since they have indeed been decimated,
and have had genocide practiced on them , not dissimilar to the Jews.
best regards
David M
New Jersey
5. Steve Collins: Menasseh and Ephraim: Some Considerations
"The Two Josephite Nations--Was one ten times greater than the other."
Shalom Yair,
I'd like to contribute some thoughts re: the question of "the Two Josephite
Nations--Was one ten times greater than the other." I think it is
important to differentiate the separate themes of Genesis 48's and
Deuteronomy 33's comments about the futures of Ephraim and Manasseh.
Genesis 48's statements about the futures of Ephraim and Manasseh appear
within the context of Jacob/Israel passing on the "birthright blessings" to
the two sons of Joseph. Deuteronomy 33, on the other hand, is a general
prophecy by Moses about the two tribes' futures, not a birthright
pronouncement. If both are examined within their context, it sheds much
light on this topic.
Genesis 48:8-22 contain the account of Jacob/Israel passing on the
birthright blessings (previously passed down through Abraham and Isaac) to
Ephraim and Manasseh, the two sons of Joseph. In verses 14-16, Jacob
simultaneously placed his hands on the heads of the two sons of Joseph and
simultaneously conferred the population aspect of the birthright upon both
of them equally. Notice verse 16 states: "...and let them grow into a
multitude in the midst of the earth." The blessing of large population
growth was conferred equally upon Ephraim and Manasseh at the same time.
The phrase "in the midst of the earth" would seem to indicate that they
would become large entities while living in the temperate zones of the
earth (the "middle" latitudes). However the fact that that both Ephraim and
Manasseh jointly and equally received this blessing of population growth
from Jacob at the same time indicates that both Ephraim and Manasseh would
become large tribes with roughly equal populations in the future. In my
opinion, this precludes the possibility that one would ever have ten times
the population of the other tribe. Speaking under divine inspiration,
Jacob's pronouncement indicates equivalence between the two tribes in the
blessing of population growth. This view is supported by biblical census
data. In Numbers 1, Ephraim's population is greater than Manasseh's, but
in Numbers 26, Manasseh's population is greater than Ephraim's. This
indicates the population balance between the two tribes could fluctuate,
but there is no support that Ephraim's population will be ten times that of
Manasseh's.
In Genesis 48:17-20, the blessings conferred on Ephraim and Manasseh become
divergent, but this divergence occurs after both have equally shared in the
population blessing by Jacob. The divergent blessing indicates Manasseh
shall be "a people" who will become "great," but Ephraim will become a
"multitude [fullness] of nations" which will be "greater," and "Ephraim was
set before Manasseh." The record of history is clear that the British
Empire was composed of a "multitude of nations" (not all of them
Israelite!); whereas, the United States has remained a single great nation
which did not subdivide into separate nations. The British Empire was also
"great" for a long time "before" the USA became great after World War II.
These historical facts indicate that the British are Ephraim and the
Americans are Manasseh as the British Empire was great "before" the
Americans were "great," and the British Empire directly ruled over a
"greater" region and population of the earth than did Manasseh. Yair
Davidy mentioned in an earlier Britam posting that one school of rabbinic
thought felt that the blessing of Ephraim "before" Manasseh meant that
Ephraim's blessing would be given first and Manasseh's would be given
later. I agree with that viewpoint because that is what has actually
happened in history.
Now let's look at Deuteronomy 33 in light of the parameters of the
birthright blessings divinely "fixed" in Genesis 48. God's Word will not
contradict itself, so the intent of Moses' prophecy in Deuteronomy 33 must
be harmonious with the birthright blessing conveyed upon Ephraim and
Manasseh in Genesis 48. Deuteronomy 33 is a prophetic blessing upon all the
tribes of Israel, but it is in no way presented as a reversal of the
birthright blessings already divinely fixed in Genesis 48. Verses 13-17
apply to Ephraim and Manasseh. Like the beginning of Genesis 48's
birthright blessing, this prophecy begins by making no distinction between
Ephraim and Manasseh. From verse 13 until the last sentence of verse 17,
Moses only uses the term "Joseph" to describe the two tribes of Ephraim and
Manasseh. Verses 13-16 show Moses prophesying that the blessings of the
Abrahamic Covenant will be inherited jointly by Ephraim and Manasseh with
no distinction between the two tribes. Even the first 2/3rds of Verse 17
reference "Joseph" in its statements, by referring to Joseph via the
pronouns "His glory...," "his horns..." and "he shall push..." Verse 17
prophesies that Joseph (both Ephraim and Manasseh) will "push the people
together to the ends of the earth." Then in the last phrase of this
prophecy, Moses finally indicates one difference between Ephraim and
Manasseh. Right after saying "Joseph will push the people together to the
ends of the earth," Moses concludes "...and they are the ten thousands of
Ephraim and the thousands of Manasseh." It is my view that Moses was
prophesying that Ephraim will "push together tens of thousands of people to
the ends of the earth," and that in contrast, Manasseh will "push together
thousands of people to the ends of the earth."
While I realize some feel this language applies to the respective
populations of Ephraim and Manasseh, there are two major arguments against
such a view. The first is that such a view is inconsistent with the
language of Genesis 48 where the promise of population growth was given
equally to both tribes in the same exact langauge. Both were to grow into
"a multitude," neither one was promised a tenfold share of population
growth over the other tribe. Genesis 48's language indicates future
equivalence between the two tribes in population matters. The second
reason is that at no time in history has Ephraim enjoyed a tenfold
dominance in population numbers over Manasseh. If that were to be the
case, Manasseh (a birthright tribe) would end up being far smaller than
non-birthright tribes such as Reuben and Gad who were also prophesied to
have large populations (Deut. 33:6 and 20). Manasseh and Ephraim jointly
inherited the birthright blessings and the other tribes of Israel did not
inherit them in Genesis 48. Therefore, Manasseh and Ephraim have to be the
two largest tribes of Israel on the earth. If Manasseh was only 1/10th as
large as Ephraim, Manasseh would be a minor tribe on the earth and the
birthright blessing would have been nullified for Manasseh. Moses was not
nullifying the divine birthright blessing of Genesis 48 in his prophecy of
Deut. 33. It is my view that Moses was revealing how Ephraim was to become
"greater" than Manasseh as described in the Genesis 48 prophecy of Jacob.
Ephraim was to become "greater" because it would dominate or directly
rule ten times the number of gentiles that would be dominated or directly
ruled by Manasseh. Supporting this viewpoint is the record of history. The
British Empire did rule over many times the numbers of people (and many
times the area) that were governed by America. I would submit that since
that is what actually happened in the record of history, that is what was
meant by the prophecy in Deuteronomy 33:17. If it was a population about
the respective populations of Ephraim and Manasseh, then we must conclude
not only that Moses nullified the word of God in the birthright blessing of
Jacob in Genesis 48 (something he had no power to do), but that prophecy
has failed to come to pass because Ephraim has never had a tenfold larger
population than Manasseh.
There are some other persuasive reasons, in my view, why the USA is mostly
Manasseh and why the British are mostly Ephraim. When Joseph put his right
hand on Ephraim's head in Genesis 48, Ephraim inherited the right to be the
"12th tribe" as the foremost birthright son of Joseph. However, Jacob made
it clear that Manasseh would be reckoned a "13th tribe" in Israel along
with Reuben, Simeon, and all the other tribes (verse 5). Manasseh became
the 13th tribe. When the USA was founded, it began with 13 colonies, and 13
stars and stripes on the flag. The number 13 is all over the Great Seal of
the USA even today (13 arrows, 13 letters in "E Pluribus Unum," etc.). God
has stamped the number "13" on the USA, and Manasseh was the 13th tribe of
Israel.
Manasseh also received by far the largest territory in the ancient Promised
Land and its territory was split down the middle into western and eastern
halves by the Jordan River flowing from north to south. The modern USA is
split down the middle into eastern and western halves by the Mississippi
River flowing from north to south. Modern America mimics the geography of
ancient Manasseh's territory. The ancient inheritance of Ephraim was much
smaller than Manasseh's and more cramped. The homeland of the British
Isles is also much smaller than that of the USA. The ancient Ephraimites
exported much of their growing population to the colonies of the
Israelite/Phoenician Empire, and the British did the same thing, exporting
much of their growing population to colonies overseas. The British
homeland and empire have mimicked the role of Ephraim in ancient Israel.
Finally, we should recognize that Genesis 49's prophecy about each of the
tribes of Israel in the latter days makes no distinction between Ephraim
and Manasseh. It simply refers to them jointly as "Joseph" in verses
22-26. This indicates the fates of both tribes will be so intertwined in
the latter days that Jacob saw no need to differentiate between the two re:
their dispensations in the end-time. Interestingly, in the current war vs.
Iraq, it is the USA and the UK which are jointly fighting and leading this
war. Again prophecy is being fulfilled. The tribes of Ephraim and
Manasseh are close allies in this war as the house of Joseph has now
invaded the ancient territory of Babylon and Chaldea in a war against evil
rulers, no matter what the rest of the world thinks! Whichever side
Britam readers are in the "Which is Ephraim and Which is Manasseh" debate,
we can be united in praying for the victory of the House of Joseph in this
war!
Steve Collins
6. The Name Houzet like Hosea!
From: GL Houzet
Subject: Fw: "Brit-Am Now"-221; What about Houzet like Hosea!
Shalom all,
What about Houzet, akin to Hosea, the Biblical Prophet? (Our surname is
pronounced "Hoozay"); with reference to your paragraph 3 below.
My great-grandfather, Jean-Baptiste Houzet, immigrated to this barren strip
of southern Africa as a British Foreign Legion soldier after the Crimean War
in January,1857. His place of birth is recorded in the British Public
Records Office as "Blandain, Tournai, Belgium".
Blessings, In Yisrael,
Merlin Houzet
PO Box 2542
Cape Town
South Africa
7. Book of Simeon?
From: Craig & Karen Blackwood
Subject: Cappadocians
Shalom Yair
This is taken from the book of Simeon
II.-The Testament of Simeon Concerning Envy.
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II.-The Testament of Simeon Concerning Envy.
6. Behold, I have foretold you all things, that I may be clear from the sin
of your souls. Now, if ye remove from you your envy, and all your
stiffneckedness, as a rose shall my bones flourish in Israel, and as a lily
my flesh in Jacob, and my odour shall be as the odour of Libanus; and as
cedars shall holy ones be multiplied from me for ever, and their branches
shall stretch afar off. Then shall perish the seed of Canaan, and a remnant
shall not be to Amalek, and all the
Cappadocians<http://www.ccel.org/fathers2/ANF-08/footnote/fn3.htm#P365_51399>6
shall perish, and all the
Hittites<http://www.ccel.org/fathers2/ANF-08/footnote/fn3.htm#P366_51545>7
shall be utterly destroyed. Then shall fail the land of Ham, and every
people shall perish. Then shall all the earth rest from trouble, and all
the world under heaven from war. Then shall Shem be glorified, because the
Lord God, the Mighty One of Israel, shall appear upon earth as
man,<http://www.ccel.org/fathers2/ANF-08/footnote/fn3.htm#P367_51899>8 and
saved by Him
Adam.<http://www.ccel.org/fathers2/ANF-08/footnote/fn3.htm#P368_52026>9
Then shall all the spirits of deceit be given to be trampled under foot,
and men shall rule over the wicked spirits. Then will I arise in joy, and
will bless the Most High because of His marvellous works, because God hath
taken a body and eaten with men and saved men.
Note By Yair: The above extract is apparently taken from The Testament of
the Twelve Patriarchs. This was an early Jewish work from pre-Christian
times that later Christian editors adapted. I looked at it some time ago.
It has some potential value but is problematic.
The Cappadocians were a people who lived in what is now northeast Turkey.
The Septuagint (Greek translation of the Bible) identified them with the
Philistines.
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