1. Remarks about the Japanese.
(a) The First Letter and Brit-Am Reply.
(b) Reply to Brit-Am Reply.
(a) The First Letter and Brit-Am Reply.
Jim wrote:
Re The Japanese are not Hebrews!
Sir Davidiy: I just finished reading the argument against the Japanese being
of Israeli descent.
It is disturbing in that the same line of reasoning suggesting the Japanese,
or at least some of that population, are not of Semite lineage is the same
type of arguments used to support Israeli Lost Tribes connections with
western nations.
It appears at first read that the "facts" against Japanese connections with
any of the Lost Tribes could juxtapose to Brit-Am "facts" for Lost Tribe
western connections. Might this be nothing short of discrimination from the
same point of view?
My Japanese room mate in college insisted that he and the Japanese are NOT
of Asian DNA. They hailed from the Middle East and he refutes the argument
that he may be offspring of Esau. Allow me to suggest that perhaps they may
have their Judiasm; i.e. Shintoism connections to Abraham and his six sons
(a few of them anyway) through Ketur'ah. After all, Abraham did command
them to "go east" and not to mix with the offspring of him and Sara',
What, if considered at all, is another name connection in many of the
Japanese wars with others such as with Russia being called Sino-Russian
wars? There is a People of Ya- Sin; Israeli by DNA. an argument from this
point of view suggests a Ham connection instead of a Japheth connection.
Where am I wrong?
Jim
Brit-Am Reply:
The Sino-Japanese War was between China and Japan.
Sino stands for China not Japan.
Who are the Ya-Sin?
I have never heard of them.
Nor could I find references on the web.
We have had the experience of talking about certain peoples etc only to find
that the person addressed was partly descended from them or married to them etc.
We have a Japanese correspondent who regularly sends us what she considers to be
convincing evidence that the Japanese descend from Israel.
In my neighborhood that is a Torah scholar of Japanese origin. He and his wife
were originally pagans, then Christians, and finally they converted to Judaism.
This personage is something of a scholar. He used to put out a weekly Torah
study that was quite interesting.
[It was distributed in the local synagogue and is not available on the web.]
I hope someday that he will make a book of it.
When he became Jewish his in-laws made him sign a document that henceforth he
has no more connection to his family.
According to him Japan is very strongly pagan at heart.
I grew up in Australia in the 1950s. The Australians are now close to Japan from
an economic point of view. During WW2 however Australian and New Zealand
soldiers fought against the Japanese.
The Japanese treated their prisoners-of-war with great cruelty.
My aunt (sister of my father) served with the British as a nurse. The ship she
was on was captured off Singapore. She never returned from captivity.
For what it is worth much of Japanese mt(Female) DNA is D an offshoot of M.
M is quite common in Asia.
It also indicates a closeness to India and Africa.
Descent from Keturah the concubine of Abraham is an interesting option.
We did not suggest that most Japanese are from Edom. Only a portion of their
historical elites.
Personally I think that Edom need not be considered so negatively.
Esau was a soldier, military type, and a hunter.
These are macho qualities many of us have been brought up to admire, envy, and
emulate.
(b) Reply to Brit-Am Reply.
Sir Davidiy: Once again you have shed light and brought a better understanding
to my inquisitive mind. This is why I read everything you post... often more
than once. You and your work is, in my opinion, predestined of G-d to be as it
is and continues to be. Recall that many of the prophets and sages were not a
delight to many of their audiences. You, again in my humble opinion, fit in this
category.
Jim
Michigan, USA
2. Question on Coming to Israel.
(a) The First Letter and Brit-Am Reply.
(b) Reply to Brit-Am Reply.
(a) The First Letter and Brit-Am Reply.
John wrote:
I have pasted below your comment that you can help us to gain knowledge on
returning (Aliyah). Please let us know what to do in order we can come to
Israel.
We live in America. My wifes mother ... came over from Germany. My mother
was a ... and came over from Austria. Both my wife and I study Torah and do
Eriv Shabbat and Shema.
Your Comments:
"The Descendants of the Ten Tribes of Israel have an obligation to learn the
Bible and understand who they are and what is required of them.
The knowledge gained through Brit-Am may be of help along the way."
Brit-Am Reply:
We are not in favor of individuals coming to Israel merely on the strength of
their belief that they descend from the Ten Tribes.
There are exceptions but on the whole we do not encourage it.
We have emphasized that our message is directed to the national entities as
whole bodies in a general sense.
Only the Messiah or his emissaries will be able to tell us for sure what
Israelite Tribes (if any) we descend from.
Individuals cannot know for certain that they descend from Israel.
Even if they are certain they will not be able to prove it.
What we are trying to do is to PROVE ISRAELITE DESCENT concerning a substantial
proportion of the national bodies we speak of.
We will not be able to say that such and such a person is an Israelite.
We should be able to say that based on the evidence most of the Tribes of Israel
are to be found amongst certain peoples.
We should also be able to say that statistically a percentage amongst these
peoples is to a degree of HIGH PROBABILITY descended from Israelites.
This may not sound like much but it is a lot.
After that we believe that many issues will resolve themselves or be resolved.
This however is the first step.
We already have much of the needed evidence. More however is needed and that
which we have should be strengthened.
Individuals ideally should concentrate on spreading the knowledge amongst their
own groups and living according to Biblical values.
On the other hand we sympathize strongly with people who feel their place is in
Israel.
We ourselves were in a similar situation.
Technically however Yair Davidiy was legally Jewish according to Jewish Law.
If it was not for this technical detail we would also have been placed in a
predicament.
Nevertheless, apart from promoting Hebrew Nations/Brit-Am awareness there is
nothing that can be really done.
Attempts to the contrary are liable to cause damage as much as anything else.
Brit-Am is an answer of sorts. Possibly it is the best answer available.
Brit-Am is also important, or it should be.
In the long run,
Brit-Am/Hebrew nations could be the solution.
(b) Reply to Brit-Am Reply.
I want to first give you all my heart felt thanks to you for your pure
wholehearted answer back to me. I am very thankful.
My wife's mother.. has almost no living relatives because of the Holocaust. Most
of them were murdered.
My wife and I bought the one and only Jewish Synagogue in our hometown which was
in total ruin. Everything was destroyed (originally built in 1930). Some in the
community wanted to knock it down and make it into a parking lot. My wife and I
told them "no way, not on our watch". So we bought it and restored it totally
(Amos 9:11).
Your answer about returning (Aliyah) rips my heart. We know we are Hebrew's
(Jewish to us means Judah only) and are really not doing well in our soul and
spirit being out of the land.
The big answer is the Israel government cannot prove we are not Hebrews.
Likewise I have no way to prove we are. So the answer is to not let us
return?!?!?
I know this is not your battle. It belongs to us. I want to again thank you for
just being there and writing back. I will send you a photo of the Synagogue. We
fly the our Israel flag outdoors every Sabbath. We get threats but we really do
not care anymore. It's become a good way to get to know the local police force.
They have been very supportive to us.
Thank you for your time and attention.
3. Need to Present Brit-Am as an
Ideological Option.
The State of Israel, Western nations, and the USA are all in danger of
Destruction.
Israel and the West are faced by opponents who are ideologically motivated.
Ideology should be met with Ideology.
A New Christian Defensive Crusade would not work, nor is it feasible.
The Founding Fathers of the USA were mostly believing Christians. Nevertheless
they were Divinely Guided in formulating the Constitution to mention God
in terms also acceptable to non-Christians.
Believe in Israelite Origins and concomitant Biblical obligation could provide both the
necessary bonding element alongside guiding principles.
The Brit-Am/Israelite Nations approach until now has been at the ground-roots
level.
Perhaps an option at the international-governmental sphere should be worked out?
If we can show that:
(a) Brit-Am (i.e. our beliefs in general) may be acceptable from the overall
factual point of view.
(b) Brit-Am is an option for survival.
(c) Brit-Am could form the basis for a workable program.
This ideology based on believe and knowledge may become accepted or put forward
as a candidate for acceptance.
This could change everything.
How does one make important decisions?
Usually one has an option that is available and may have been for a while.
Then new facts or changes in other spheres make the option acceptable.
We should show that the knowledge that Brit-Am provides may form the basis for a
necessary option.
The survival of either Judah or Joseph or both together may be dependent on
this.
This is an idea that should perhaps be worked out and elaborated upon.
4. Answer to Suggestion that Orthodox
Jewish Scruples may be an Impediment.
The problem is not so much lack of acceptance of Joseph by the Orthodox Jews.
The problem in so far as one exists is lack of knowledge as to who Joseph is.
One could say that Joseph is out there, that Brit-Am provides proofs and so do
other groups and individuals.
This is a beginning.
The knowledge however needs to be available and presented in an acceptable way.
Psychological barriers need to be overcome.
By spreading this information and making it ready and accessible if and when it
is needed Brit-Am is preparing the way.
HaShem bless you
Yair
5.Returning to Israel: Brit-Am may be the best chance.
Concerning all those in Western nations who believe they are descended from
Israelite Tribes.
AND
All those who feel their place is in Israel.
See:
Individual Conclusions.
Brit-Am/Hebrew Nations is the best chance you have.
At least for the moment.
We are seriously in need of funds to function.
See:
Offerings to Brit-Am
This Project of ours is a Biblical Enterprise on your behalf as well as being
our own task.
We believe the Almighty will reward those who help us keep going.
6. Meredith Carpenter: God has a great
plan!
Re: Brit-Am Now no. 1883: Ten Tribes Studies.
#3. Marieta Louw: Economic Collapse May Bring the Israelites Home!
I hope when we return to Israel that we will, as our Grandfathers did, take
everything that we want to with us, and that we are able to give and not be a
burden to the State of Israel, or to the Jews. As far as the collapse of our
economy, I believe it is because our countries are being over run with people
who want to be given the good life without giving up their bad ways. The USA has
sacrificed over 54 million unborn babies to abortion and experimentation. God
has given us the chance for many many years to repent and it has not happened...
repent and change. The same people who carried the tribes away (the assyrians),
it is their spiritual and probably physical descendants who carried out 911. God
let down his hand, for a moment. We must stop giving in to politically
correctness, and do what God says. I don't know how we will make it home, to
Israel, but God has a great plan, and it will probably be what we could never
imagine.
7. Jonathan Caro: Pleased with The
Tribes.
Dear Mr. Davidiy,
Just letting you know that I recently received two copies of the new 4th edition
of The Tribes, which met all expectations. This material is essential reading
and should frequently be reviewed and referenced to reflect once again upon the
sheer volume and integrity of the information supporting the Brit-Am thesis. I
cannot imagine providing a more beneficial and inspiring gift for family,
friends, and also opinion makers.
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