"Brit-Am Now"-958
Contents:
1. William Rasmussen Replies to Nut case
2. Sally: Comments on "A nasty attitude" and happy with Role to Rule
3. Anna Arnold: Pleased with Role to Rule and reply to Nut case
4. Janice: Comments on DNA Findings and Brit-Am Reply
"Brit-Am Beliefs and the Importance of DNA"
5. DNA: Early Anglo-Saxon Settlement and Hypothetical "Apartheid" in Britain
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1. William
Rasmussen Replies to Nut case
Subject: Re: "Brit-Am Now"-957
[letter of disturbed person followed by reply by Bill Rasmussen]
"Brit-Am Now"-957
#1. Sick Nutcase Attacks Brit-Am
(1. Sick Nutcase Attacks Brit-Am
The following letter was received by us and is typical of a certain
type of correspondent
we have to cope with on occasion.
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 19:55:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: James Radcliffe
Extract (portion deleted in the interest of good taste)
Subject: Your Site
Is a deliberate attempt to mix truths with lies.
You claim that Khazars are of Judah, when nothing could be further
from the truth. They are of Edom. Their character is NOT one of
honesty and integrity, they are thoroughly loathsome and disgusting
creatures; never a more clear example of the Synagogue of Satan.
Secondly, you try to make the Germans out to be Edom, when they
clearly are NOT, they have more Judah (Jewish) blood in them than
anyone 'claiming' to be Jewish could ever hope for. (For some reason,
those who claim to be Jews, but are of the Synagogue of Satan
continually try to smear the TRUE Judahites [Germans] -- perhaps this
on-going attempt to steal their birthrights explains their hatred.)
Thirdly, you keep siting the Satanic Talmud, as if....
Fourthly, there is no way that I will allow you to continue,
unchallenged, to make a bunch of murderers and thieves out to be of
Judah (or Israel for that matter) when it is CLEAR BY THEIR FRUITS,
that they are of darkness.
I will definitely be getting word out to the Brotherhood about your
site and the LIES you mix with the truth in order to deceive. That is
precisely how the fallen ones behave -- mixing in enough truth in
order to make a lie more acceptable.
Reply by Bill Rasmussen:
Shalom Yair: I wonder what institution Mr. James Radcliffe was let out of to
send such tripe as he sent to you. He should go back to his padded cell.
Really now, his comments are so pathetic, it is good for everyone to see what
you have to deal with occasionally.
Germans are the true Jews? Mr. Radcliffe should apply his own standards
equally. If ever there was a "Synagogue of Satan", it was Nazi Germany. Mr.
Radcliffe should know that there were Christians around the world praying that
Herr Hitler and his crazed masses would be stopped. If the Germans were the
true Jews, why didn't they follow the charge by Isaiah that "Israel shall be a
light to the nations"? What light did those Germans bring? What light are the
Germans bringing to the world today?
I especially loved his comment that he would be getting the word out to the
"Brotherhood", whoever they are. The "Brotherhood" sounds pretty sinister to
me. Are we talking Aryan, white supremacists here ala KKK or Aryan nation? If
ever there was a wolf in sheep's clothing, it is Mr. Radcliffe.
Yair, we know that we will have to fight off attacks of the enemy. In my
estimation, people like Mr. Radcliffe are more dangerous and insidious than
Muslim terrorists. At least with Muslim terrorists, you know that they stand
diametrically opposed to the Torah. This loathsome individual is like a frog:
comfortable in two environments, whether it be water and land or in his case,
the Bible and the evil inclination. Thanks for sharing this with us. It is
important that people like him are exposed for the evil that they espouse.
As was charged to Joshua so may it be with you: Be strong and of a good courage,
fear not nor be dismayed; for HaShem your G-d is with you wherever you go.
Shalom v'b'richot [i.e. "and blessings"], Bill
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2. Sally:
Comments on "A nasty attitude" and happy with Role to Rule
Subject: Re: "Brit-Am Now"-957
#1. Sick Nutcase Attacks Brit-Am
Hi Yair, my goodness, such bile floating around out there! A nasty attitude can
be harmful to one's health. O.K. everyone, take a deep breath now and then.....
BTW, I received my copy of Role to Rule and am very happy with it, its great
reading. (And...Psssst! I didn't notice how long it took to arrive....)
Shalom, Sally
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3. Anna Arnold:
Pleased with Role to Rule and reply to Nut case
Re: "Brit-Am Now"-957
#1. Sick Nutcase Attacks Brit-Am
Subject: German blood?
Shalom Yair,
Thank you for your excellent book "Role to Rule" I toughly enjoyed it.
And like you say to the "sick nut case" James Ratcliffe.
Do you mean to tell me all my family died in concentration camps,
because they were German? Anna.
Yair you can put that in the Digest as I don't know how to do that.
Shalom Anna
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4. Janice:
Comments on DNA Findings and Brit-Am Reply
"Brit-Am Beliefs and the Importance of DNA"
Subject: Re: "Brit-Am Now"-956
#2. Dr David Faux -a new positive force
Shalom Mr. Davidi;
I have a question regarding the DNA tracings to haplogroups. Which is how is it
that a body of persons gets a haplogroup #; that seems to end. That is they had
to come from somewhere before say the are found in Scotland. It makes it seems
like they originated out of the dirt at some point in time and are now called
the B4bb20 haplogroup.
I mean should this DNA all be traced back to one man ADAM?
We have blacks who are so excited cause they took the DNA test and found the
exact location in Africa from whence they came. But like so what? That
particular tribe of people also came from somewhere or else there are myriads of
Adams in different points of the earth that YHVH created out of the ground.
It seems like a mathematical nightmare that leads where?
also it seems like the regular folk have to rely on the reporting of people they
don't know. No one can prove these findings; unless they belong to a special
school. How can DNA be used in court to determine anything? Is is evidence
either you or I could hold in our hand and say yup that's a gun, it's been
used. We are also prone to fall into what could be false used to control
people, eliminate some and keep other.
It seems the Biblical accounts are sufficient to show the general principal,
that all were created by G-d to be a likeness of His image. To show the
general migrations of people since the exile from Gan [Garden of] Eden.
If we are taking about proving someone is an original descendant of lost tribes,
that also seems mute as the covenant had a legal prescription to include the
stranger, they were to acknowledge the G-d of Israel and His commands and live
like Israelites, you shall not treat the stranger differently than yourselves.
So help me understand this seemingly unquenchable thirst for DNA and haplogroup
findings? Seems like soooo much academia would drive a person mad.
Ms.Jan
Reply:
Concerning Dr Faux and haplogroups etc this is of potential interest to us
but we do not follow it closely. Dr Faux has notions concerning the movement of
ethnic
groups especially specific DNA markers. He gives depth to his claims by serious
historical research
referring to up-to-date sources. Some of the pathways of migration that Dr Faux
beliefs in overlap to a degree
part of the Brit-Am Historical Paths of Migration.
This is his primary interest to us at present.
Concerning DNA studies in general,
You have a point.
In our age there is a mass return to ones family "sources".
Genealogy rivals Pornography to become the most popular subject on the Internet.
People want to know where they came from.
This was hinted at in the Bible.
It says that in the End Times there will be a return:
[Malachi 4:5] BEHOLD, I WILL SEND YOU ELIJAH THE PROPHET BEFORE THE COMING OF
THE GREAT AND DREADFUL DAY OF THE LORD:
[Malachi 4:6] AND HE SHALL TURN THE HEART OF THE FATHERS TO THE CHILDREN, AND
THE HEART OF THE CHILDREN TO THEIR FATHERS, LEST I COME AND SMITE THE EARTH WITH
A CURSE.
This refers to the Lost Ten Tribes returning and identifying their fathers from
the Tribes of Israel.
http://britam.org/malachi.html
Genealogy however is not absolutely certain and does not provide an overall
picture.
DNA is more reliable.
We all come from one father; deeds are what count, etc.
Nevertheless knowing who ones ancestors where or well might have been also
helps.
This is what Brit-Am is about.
This is what our generation needs.
It is true that DNA is unfortunately quite complicated and involves expertise in
several
sciences that the average person does not have (and neither do we).
We can only follow the stated results and have little licence to agree or
disagree with them
since we do not understand how the results were arrived at.
Tomorrow another scientist could come out with more advanced tests and overturn
the previous ones.
Alternately a maverick scientist could have entirely different explanations for
the whole
thing and eventually be proven correct.
The understanding of Brit-Am is that DNA findings may have to revised
in so far as we understand that certain environmental factors may trigger the
same vital changes in more
than one subject. We also say that the time factor used needs to be greatly
diminished, i.e. all recorded
points of variance from one subject to another occurred relatively recently from
a historical perspective.
Nevertheless once the changes take place they are hereditary and therefore
enable us to trace
ancestry and interrelationships to a great degree.
It is true that the stranger who identifies with Israel will be accepted as an
Israelite.
This is part of the general picture. One aspect does not nullify another.
Israel is the main character.
Brit-Am is interested in all fields of evidence that can help us understand
Biblical Proofs concerning the present-day identity of the Lost Ten Tribes of
Israel.
All other relevant disciplines may be understood as supporting
or able to be interpreted as supporting the Brit-Am scenario.
This does not apply to DNA in the general sense though at the margins it does
confirm
some points of ours.
Let us take a personal example from your beloved monitor of "Brit-Am Now".
Yair Davidiy had a Jewish mother [whose ancestors seem to have been mainly in
Alsace-France, Switzerland, Germany, Denmark] and a Welsh father.
Genealogical research by the sister of my father just recently came up with
a hitherto hidden family "secret".
The father of my great-grandfather is unknown! He was brought up by his aunt.
DNA tests however taken by one of my sons show us to be R1b1c7
(claimed descendants of Nial who gave rise to the early kings of Ireland and
Scotland)
which is particular to Northwest Ireland with some
overlap in Scotland and elsewhere.
This is interesting. It ties in with other information.
It may turn out to be wrong but so far all the evidence indicates that
it is reliable. We can accept this.
It also means however if we accept the conventional explanations that we
probably have no
distant male ancestor who was of kin with the Ancient Israelites and with Judah.
We may have numerous other ancestors who were Israelites but going way back the
original
male progenitor would have been a "stranger" who was closer to the peoples of
the north
in Germany and Russia etc and even of Amerindia than to the Hebrews.
This could be so.
If it was so we could live with it on the personal level.
It would not however apply only to Yair Davidiy but to MOST peoples of West
European origin.
It would nullify a major point of Brit-Am belief.
It would also according to our understanding contradict what we understand
Scripture as saying.
We DO NOT however believe that this is what the evidence says.
We understand the evidence only as saying that the male ancestors of people
now classified as belonging to a certain haplogroup etc may well have been all
in the same regions
at the same times when external influences triggered DNA changes.
It may be that all those who were "there" are interrelated
but this would not necessarily be the case.
This point of view has not been proven though some evidence appears to support
it.
It justifies an ongoing Brit-Am interest in the subject.
It is important to us since our task is to convince others of our Brit-Am
beliefs.
Some objections or queries on Brit-Am beliefs quote DNA findings.
These findings cannot be ignored but must be related to.
Brit-Am endeavors to understand, make understandable, and reply to whatever
requires it.
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5. DNA: Early
Anglo-Saxon Settlement and Hypothetical "Apartheid" in Britain
http://www.pubs.royalsoc.ac.uk/media/proceedings_b/papers/RSPB20063627.pdf
Abstract:
The role of migration in the Anglo-Saxon transition in England remains
controversial. Archaeological and historical evidence is inconclusive, but
current estimates of the contribution of migrants to the English population
range from less than 10 000 to as many as 200 000. In contrast, recent studies
based on Y-chromosome variation posit a considerably higher contribution to the
modern English gene pool (50?100%). Historical evidence suggests that following
the Anglo-Saxon transition, people of indigenous ethnicity were at an economic
and legal disadvantage compared to those having Anglo-Saxon ethnicity. It is
likely that such a disadvantage would lead to differential reproductive success.
We examine the effect of differential reproductive success, coupled with limited
intermarriage between distinct ethnic groups, on the spread of genetic variants.
Computer simulations indicate that a social structure limiting intermarriage
between indigenous Britons and an initially small Anglo-Saxon immigrant
population provide a plausible explanation of the high degree of Continental
male-line ancestry in England.
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